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RE: [RT] Re: One Day Rally or Start of New Trend



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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Clyde,
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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I'm 
sorry Clyde, I made an incorrect assumption that I was dealing with a group of 
traders here that
were 
above average in intelligence and would know to apply apples and apples.  
My point in saying your
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>analysis was flawed was reference to the obvious fact that the current 
market environment has NOTHING
to do 
with the environment that existed for the past 20 odd years. If you wish to 
compare like with like
you 
need to compare REAL bear markets with the current activity.  The US has 
had NO bear markets in
the 
past 20 years.  The only obvious ones are 1929-33 and the 70's. All of this 
seems obvious to me.
Its 
great to have the ability to take some simple notion and crunch it through 
1000's of examples and tests
but 
ultimately its like using a sledgehammer to put a nail in the wall.  
Extremely ineffective and will lead
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>everyone to wrong conclusions. There is only ONE proper way and it 
involves an understanding and 
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>appreciation of markets, people, economics and how it all 
interacts.  Markets AREN'T simple, they are 
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>incredibly complex, and any attempt to apply one dimensional analysis 
across a whole raft of environments
will 
be futile.  Its like saying the best moving average will be the least 
square fit line over the past 100 years!!
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2> 
By 
eliminating al that is incorrect Clyde, it brings everyone one step closer to 
the truth.  Wasn't their a famous
genius 
who once said it you eliminate the impossible, you are left with whats 
possible?
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2> 
So my 
suggestion, even though it went over your head, is to once again suggest that 
you analyse where 6%
updays 
occurred in GENUINE sustained bear trends.  i.e 1929-33, 1970-74 and the 
NASDAQ 2000-current.
I'm 
sure your readers would be more informed with whatever is discovered.  I 
haven't done the work, but my
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>experience would suggest there were quite a few of them, and ALL except 
the very last one had no bullish
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>implications whatsoever.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Regards,
Adrian 
Pitt
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  <FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Clyde Lee 
  [mailto:clydelee@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2002 6:02 
  AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] Re: 
  One Day Rally or Start of New Trend
  Adrian,
   
  Why is it that everything anyone does in the way 
  of an analysis is 
  "flawed" in your 
  mind (and it really has to be just in YOUR mind).
   
  I doubt seriously that whatever happened in 
  1929-1933 has anything
  to do with what goes on these days and in that 
  respect your logic
  is more "flawed" than the study that I 
  provided.  My analysis covered
  a considerably longer period than the 4 years you 
  reference and you
  would throw out the analysis totally because of 
  the behavior over a
  single 4 year period.  Somewhere analytic 
  does not appear to be
  analytical any more.
   
  Instead of just saying something is "flawed" why 
  do you not detail
  explicitly just how and why it is flawed and 
  show specific information
  which others can consider to see if they would 
  agree with your
  concept of "flawedness" instead of some 
  broad brush statement 
  without any support ! ! ! ! 
   
   
   
  Clyde
   
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
    Adrian 
    Pitt 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:05 
    AM
    Subject: RE: [RT] Re: One Day Rally or 
    Start of New Trend
    
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Clyde,
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2> 
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Your research is flawed.  All 3 charts are bull market phases in 
    the market.  Show me your analysis of the Dow in 1929-33 and lets see 
    what happened after 6% updays :-)
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2> 
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Adrian
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      <FONT 
      face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Clyde Lee 
      [mailto:clydelee@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2002 10:50 
      PMTo: <A 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
      Re: [RT] Re: One Day Rally or Start of New Trend
      Attached are 3 charts covering time periods 
      in which significant up
      moves began.
       
      The red bars are days in which the range of 
      the high for that day to
      the lower low of that or the prior day exceed 
      6 percent.
       
      Now you have a basis for deciding whether 
      there is a likelihood of
      this being more than a one day 
      rally.
       
      Clyde
       
       
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      Chairman/CEO          (Home 
      of SwingMachine)SYTECH 
      Corporation          email: 
      clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  
      7910 Westglen, Suite 105       
      Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
      77063               
      Fax:    (713) 783-1092Details 
      at:                      
      www.theswingmachine.com- 
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