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RE: MS 7.2 upgrade A JOKE



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<SPAN 
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All I 
can say is I agree with you completely, and I hope that Equis replies in detail 
to your questions and that you will post it here. You have done a great job of 
expressing in a more detailed way the thoughts I had in my earlier post. 

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I'm 
not sure AIQ is that much better in terms of listening to it's customers, at 
least since their aquisition by Track Data (it seems all the big data companies 
want to buy a software company, but don't know how to manage it--just like 
Reuters). However, the price/value with AIQ is much better; $79.95 per month for 
real time data and that includes the price of their software. Reuters wants 
$64.95/month for data, and $200/month plus for E-Signal and $1700 up 
front for the software! Metastock needs to get to work and improve their product 
so it will benefit serious traders. We don't need the marketing hype, and we 
don't need to be "milked" as you put it.  
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<SPAN 
class=940565321-28032001>Sincerely-
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Ron 
Scott
 

  <FONT 
  face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----From: 
  owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
  Behalf Of John RSent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:29 
  PMTo: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: MS 7.2 upgrade 
  A JOKE
  Mickey,
   
  I have to agree with you that on the information 
  I have seen to date V7.2 release looks poor value. After reading the Equis PR 
  release it was not clear to me what exactly was new or improved from V7.03. I 
  therefore emailed Equis support yesterday and asked 
  specifically:-
  1. If System Tester now works across multiple 
  selected securities simultaneously.
  2. If Internet integration feature is now fully 
  customisable by users (I am in UK so hard coded US site links are useless to 
  me).
  3. Are the new 26 "Trading Systems" which are 
  included customisable by users or are they just closed black boxes like many 
  of the Experts shipped with Metastock.
  4. Have any improvements been made to formula 
  language.
  5. Is there a comprehesive list of all the new 
  features and improvements in V7.2 from V7.03 (not just a Press 
  Release).
  When I get a reply will post info here.
   
  IMO Equis seem to have lost their 
  direction since the takeover by Reuters. They certainly don't appear 
  to be listening to what existing Metastock users want (although they must be 
  aware becuase they monitor this board and the Yahoo Equis board). I 
  suspect Equis are under increasing commercial pressure from competitors like 
  AIQ who have made big inroads into the TA market. It now seems Equis are 
  attempting to milk their user base for easy revenue with successive 
  minor upgrade charges plus charging for various black box plug-ins/add-ons. 
  Personally I think the approach of closed black boxes and protected Experts 
  etc. is completelly at odds with the reason most users buy Metastock i.e. 
  to design, experiment and test their own trading ideas. It also worries 
  me that Equis has found it necessary to go out to a 3rd party for these 
  plug-ins etc. - why didn't they do the development themselves?, what about the 
  support issues? Commercially Equis may be trying to make Metastock more 
  attractive to new users of TA software but this market is well saturated 
  already. I don't know why Equis don't just stick to the traditional 
  strengths of the MS product and concentrate on enhancing it by LISTENING TO 
  EXISTING USERS - then the product really would be great. I also happen to 
  use AIQ (no other connection other than user) and they operate in almost 
  complete contrast to Equis. They have an excellent user group and beta test 
  group plus the developers are pro-active in encouraging input on new 
  features required. The AIQ product is not perfect (are they ever?) but they 
  have made enormous progress in the past 2 years by being open and really 
  listening to what user want and then making sure they have delivered it. 
  Apologies if this sounds like a plug for the AIQ product - it's not meant 
  to be (MS charting is better) - it's a plug for the way the AIQ company does 
  things.
   
  IMHO one thing is for sure - if Equis do not wake up 
  soon there is only one direction they will be going (it aint up) and that 
  would be very sad for all us MS users.
   
  John
   
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    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
    <A title=Michel.Amelinckx@xxxxxxxxxx 
    href="mailto:Michel.Amelinckx@xxxxxxxxxx";>Michel Amelinckx 
    To: <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Metastock User List (E-mail) 

    Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:04 
    PM
    Subject: MS 7.2 upgrade A JOKE
    
    I believe if you have your own systems 
    the new MS upgrade is just an other joke.  One thing WOULD BE GREAT is 
    the testing on multiple securities but wait before you get too exited 
    because I have the feeling this is only for those new systems which they 
    added.  So I believe it's better to by the add-on of Mr. DeBRY  <A 
    href="http://www.debry.com/software_tools_and_services.htm       And">http://www.debry.com/software_tools_and_services.htm       
    And most probably those new systems will be password protected so 
    experienced traders who would like to implement some things are left in the 
    cold.  So I strongly belief apart those new systems nothing is 
    valuable. So people who don't have a GOOD system jet to trade may have 
    something with this.  But I believe most experienced traders have 
    already their system and style. So would this suggests that MS is pointing 
    too the NEW inexperienced traders and letting the old experienced traders 
    out to dry.  If this is the case they should strongly change their adds 
    in TASC and other magazines.
     
    Access the internet within 
    MetaStock, so you can view internet content side-by-side with your MetaStock 
    charts. Now you can access the internet instantly from your 
    chart&#8217;s shortcut menu and bring it right up on your screen.  Plus, 
    MetaStock 7.2&#8217;s new Web Resources feature lets you set up links to 
    your favorites web sites.  Then, with the click of a mouse, MetaStock 
    will access up-to-the-minute information relating to your security, and 
    display it next to your chart.  
     
    This is already possible to add 
    icons with WWW links in MS
     
     Make your trades online 
    within MetaStock, anytime, anywhere.  It&#8217;s never be easier to 
    trade online.  Because now you can choose the location within MetaStock 
    7.2 that&#8217;s most convenient for you, with the Online Trading toolbar.  
    MetaStock 7.2 works with Preferred Trade and other web based trading sites. 
    
     
    Same thing I have already an icons in MS 
    so when I click on it I get to my order entry screen of my 
    broker
     
    Refresh button is already 
    there
     
    Maybe for users who use Data on demand 
    there are some new features, but anyone knows the best value/money 
    services are QuotesPlus and TC2000 so I don't care about this thing what 
    they are trying to push us in using.
     
    If I see all this I believe this is not 
    AT ALL made BY LISTENING TO THE REAL USERS, the traders.  And for this 
    I like to ask the MS EOD USERS (not sales or tech people of MS) on 
    this list what you thing about all this.
     
    Greetings
     

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