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 we should make tomorrow higher hi, 
that should give you a chance to add to 
shorts, 
and most likely  only close up sp 2-3 points, 
after being up 4-6 
(nasdaq will drag it down) 
oil will  go down (temporarily  ) and 
push sp up, 
Ben 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:41 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [RT] market outlook 
  
  
  There are lots of ways to play the markets. In my case, the NYSE and 
  NASDAQ breadth models are still showing large bearish divergences and a 
  complete breakdown from highs so the models suggest short trades have best 
  odds of succeeding. I am still hopping for higher highs for better short 
  opportunities but not counting on it. 
    
  Earl 
  
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    Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:32 
    AM 
    Subject: Re: [RT] market outlook 
    
  
    You could be right, but until there is a sell 
    signal the is no use fighting price action other then catching some contra 
    trend trades.  
    
      ----- Original Message -----  
      
      
      Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:21 
      AM 
      Subject: Re: [RT] market 
outlook 
      
  
      I believe that the next "big" money is going to be made on the 
      downside. I have been shorting these rallies with short entries at hourly 
      price targets and covering when decline runs out of momentum. I still 
      have outstanding targets in the mid to high 1250's along with resting 
      orders, however it's not a given that the targets will be met given the 
      increasingly labored tenor of the market. 
        
      Earl 
      
        ----- Original Message -----  
        
        
        Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 
        10:03 AM 
        Subject: Re: [RT] market 
        outlook 
        
  
        the leg down found support at 1225 and 1245 
        did act as resistance as called for a retracement did occur.  I 
        still do not have a longer term sell signal nor to I have a new entry 
        price for the next leg up.  therefore the upside target remains in 
        force. Have a good week end.  Ira.  
        
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          Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:32 
          AM 
          Subject: Re: [RT] market 
          outlook 
          
  
          I have no longer term sell on the 
          SPX.  I have resistance, a price objective, at 1244 and an over 
          all target of 1262 for the move up.  My short term downside 
          target is 1239 which appears to have been reached and another leg down 
          is setting up.  If the entry price is hit look for support at 
          1239 and a target price of 1237.   Right now the entry price 
          hasn't been hit for this next leg down.  There is also an entry 
          price for the next move up.  If that is hit the profit potential 
          for that move far exceeds the current potential for a down move. 
           
            
          There is nothing happening right now that 
          says that the up move is over even though there is a retracement 
          currently going on.  
            
          Ira. .  
          
            ----- Original Message -----  
            
            
            Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 
            7:51 AM 
            Subject: Re: [RT] market 
            outlook 
            
  
            I do not trade dia or Dow 
            futures 
            only spy and sp05u 
            if you can translate into  spy or 
            sp05u I can see our #   mach 
            (you could do at your 
            leisure) 
            best regards 
            Ben 
            
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              Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 
              10:38 AM 
              Subject: Re: [RT] market 
              outlook 
              
  
              This is where we differ and our 
              trading styles show our conflicting approach.  It appears 
              that you are trading off of extremes that are produced by your 
              charts and I would trade when price has hit my entry price.  
              We seem to both come up with similar answers.  You scale in 
              and I would trade the max that my money management would 
              allow.   Both have stops.  My stop tells me I am 
              wrong.  I have no idea how you create your stop. 
 
                
              Right now I would be short with an 
              entry price of 10694 with support at 10685 and a target at 
              10670.  Stop at 10725.  All specific numbers, these are 
              rounded, with indicator confirmation.  
                
              do these numbers fit your 
              scenario? 
                
              Ira. 
              
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                Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 
                6:37 AM 
                Subject: Re: [RT] market 
                outlook 
                
  
                Hello Ira 
                this is why  i put only 25% of 
                the position and always has an exit point which is a stop 
                loss 
                Ben 
                
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                  Sent: Friday, July 29, 
                  2005 1:17 AM 
                  Subject: Re: [RT] market 
                  outlook 
                  
  
                  So far so good.  Ben you are 
                  a couple of days early for a real short I 
                  believe.  We are at that 10,725 resistance area and a 
                  retracement of sorts should occur.  
                    
                  Once again one mans 
                  opinion,  Ira.  
                  
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                    Sent: Sunday, June 19, 
                    2005 11:22 AM 
                    Subject: Re: [RT] 
                    market outlook 
                    
  
                    Congratulations on a great set 
                    of charts.  The interesting thing is that different 
                    people look at the same chart and see different 
                    things.   Using the daily chart only it would take 
                    a drop of over 250 points in the Dow to start a retracement 
                    with a magnitude of over 1000 points.  That leaves a 
                    huge stop.  For it to even begin 10,400 would have to 
                    be taken out and there would be support at 10,000,  
                    that would make for part of the move, 600 points +/-.  
                     
                      
                    ON the up side I have a very 
                    high price target of just over 13,000, with shorter term 
                    targets at 11,025 and 11,280.   
                      
                    There are resistance levels at 
                    10,650, 10,725 and 10,960.  These resistance levels are 
                    interim price objectives and retracements should occur from 
                    these levels.  It is the magnitude of the retracement 
                    that will make the difference as to whether price continues 
                    up or goes down to test previous levels as support.  
                     
                      
                    Like your work Ben. 
                     
                      
                    Just a little different input 
                    using different data. Ira.  
                    
                      ----- Original Message ----- 
                       
                      
                      
                      Sent: Sunday, June 
                      19, 2005 10:31 AM 
                      Subject: [RT] market 
                      outlook 
                      
  
                      The Dow Industrial 
                      Average has broken out of the intermediate 
                      consolidation pattern, closing above resistance at [3], 
                      then drawing into a narrow range at [4], before further 
                      gains at [5]. Volumes were light until Friday [5] which 
                      experienced increased selling (signaled by the weak 
                      close). Expect a test of resistance at 10900/11000. A 
                      pull-back that respects 10550 would add confirmation; 
                      while a retreat below 10550 would signal further 
                      hesitancy.
  
                      
  
                      The last year has established strong support at 
                      10000/9750. There is also strong resistance at 
                      11000/11500, shown by price action from 1999 to 2001 and 
                      by recent highs in 2005. I expect to see a lot more price 
                      action between these levels before there is a clear 
                      breakout. Twiggs 
                      Money Flow (21-day) signals accumulation, with a 
                      strong rise above the zero line. If the indicator rises 
                      above the recent high, without crossing below zero, that 
                      would be a further bull signal. 
  
                      
  
                      Transport indicators have failed to follow through on 
                      recent bear signals. Watch for a rally that could take out 
                      the recent highs: Fedex above 90.00 and UPS, 
                      similarly, above its May high.  
  
                      
  
                      The Nasdaq 
                      Composite is testing resistance at 2100. A close above 
                      this level (the high of the January to March 
                      consolidation) would signal resumption of the primary 
                      up-trend. Friday showed increased resistance with strong 
                      volume and a red candle (weak close); so a fall below 2050 
                      should not be discounted, signaling a test of support at 
                      1900.
  The market appears to have more confidence in 
                      the (Dow) heavyweights.  
  
                      
  
                      The S&P 500 shows even greater confidence 
                      than the Dow and is close to testing resistance at the 
                      March high of 1225. A close above 1225 would signal 
                      resumption of the primary up-trend.  
  
                      
  
                      Twiggs 
                      Money Flow (21-day) displays a strong bull signal: a 
                      pull-back that held above the zero line. A rise to a new 
                      6-month high would confirm.  
 
  
                      
                        
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