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 This is where we differ and our trading styles show 
our conflicting approach.  It appears that you are trading off of extremes 
that are produced by your charts and I would trade when price has hit my entry 
price.  We seem to both come up with similar answers.  You scale in 
and I would trade the max that my money management would allow.   Both 
have stops.  My stop tells me I am wrong.  I have no idea how you 
create your stop.  
  
Right now I would be short with an entry price of 
10694 with support at 10685 and a target at 10670.  Stop at 
10725.  All specific numbers, these are rounded, with indicator 
confirmation.  
  
do these numbers fit your scenario? 
  
Ira. 
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 6:37 AM 
  Subject: Re: [RT] market outlook 
  
  
  Hello Ira 
  this is why  i put only 25% of the position 
  and always has an exit point which is a stop loss 
  Ben 
  
    ----- Original Message -----  
    
    
    Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:17 
    AM 
    Subject: Re: [RT] market outlook 
    
  
    So far so good.  Ben you are a couple of 
    days early for a real short I believe.  We are at that 10,725 
    resistance area and a retracement of sorts should occur.  
      
    Once again one mans opinion,  Ira. 
     
    
      ----- Original Message -----  
      
      
      Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:22 
      AM 
      Subject: Re: [RT] market 
outlook 
      
  
      Congratulations on a great set of 
      charts.  The interesting thing is that different people look at the 
      same chart and see different things.   Using the daily chart 
      only it would take a drop of over 250 points in the Dow to start a 
      retracement with a magnitude of over 1000 points.  That leaves a huge 
      stop.  For it to even begin 10,400 would have to be taken out and 
      there would be support at 10,000,  that would make for part of the 
      move, 600 points +/-.   
        
      ON the up side I have a very high price 
      target of just over 13,000, with shorter term targets at 11,025 and 
      11,280.   
        
      There are resistance levels at 10,650, 10,725 
      and 10,960.  These resistance levels are interim price objectives and 
      retracements should occur from these levels.  It is the magnitude of 
      the retracement that will make the difference as to whether price 
      continues up or goes down to test previous levels as support.  
       
        
      Like your work Ben.  
        
      Just a little different input using different 
      data. Ira.  
      
        ----- Original Message -----  
        
        
        Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:31 
        AM 
        Subject: [RT] market outlook 
        
  
        The Dow Industrial Average has 
        broken out of the intermediate consolidation pattern, closing above 
        resistance at [3], then drawing into a narrow range at [4], before 
        further gains at [5]. Volumes were light until Friday [5] which 
        experienced increased selling (signaled by the weak close). Expect a 
        test of resistance at 10900/11000. A pull-back that respects 10550 would 
        add confirmation; while a retreat below 10550 would signal further 
        hesitancy.
  
        
  
        The last year has established strong support at 10000/9750. There 
        is also strong resistance at 11000/11500, shown by price action from 
        1999 to 2001 and by recent highs in 2005. I expect to see a lot more 
        price action between these levels before there is a clear 
        breakout. Twiggs 
        Money Flow (21-day) signals accumulation, with a strong rise above 
        the zero line. If the indicator rises above the recent high, without 
        crossing below zero, that would be a further bull signal. 
  
        
  
        Transport indicators have failed to follow through on recent bear 
        signals. Watch for a rally that could take out the recent highs: 
        Fedex above 90.00 and UPS, similarly, above its May high. 
         
  
        
  
        The Nasdaq Composite is 
        testing resistance at 2100. A close above this level (the high of the 
        January to March consolidation) would signal resumption of the primary 
        up-trend. Friday showed increased resistance with strong volume and a 
        red candle (weak close); so a fall below 2050 should not be discounted, 
        signaling a test of support at 1900.
  The market appears to have 
        more confidence in the (Dow) heavyweights.  
  
        
  
        The S&P 500 shows even greater confidence than the Dow 
        and is close to testing resistance at the March high of 1225. A close 
        above 1225 would signal resumption of the primary up-trend. 
         
  
        
  
        Twiggs 
        Money Flow (21-day) displays a strong bull signal: a pull-back that 
        held above the zero line. A rise to a new 6-month high would 
        confirm.  
 
  
        
          
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