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Nope. can't pin this one on Mark.
My mouth has been washed out with soap, for
I have been a baaad boy.
For all the folks I have offended with my deeply religious rhetoric,
I am sorry for causing you pain and suffering.
Apparently a few nerve endings are to near the skin, and my remarks
have agitated.
I shall refrain from anything remotely controversial, and will
now agree with every rediculous statement, observation, remark,
analysis, indicator salesman,scam ,  whatever. No waves from me..  
Oops, I said wave, That might be
misinterpreted as an attack on an Elliott Wave believer. sorry for 
that remark.

Nope, not mark brown.

has been fun.....




--- In realtraders@xxxx, "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx> wrote:
> Mark is that you, formally TG . . . . ?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jeff97_98_1998" <jprroth@xxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:49 AM
> Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
> 
> 
> > Duke,
> >
> > So news reports on national television, interviewing
> > people "seeing" the Virgin Mary in a rust stain,
> > that is OK.  But if I make reference to it, that is
> > not OK, blaspheme ?  A little touch of hipocracy.
> > Censorship, the Americam way.  Do you understand
> > sarcasm?  Put me on auto ignore.
> > Non constructive for you, may be constructive
> > for anothers.  do you speak for all, or is this
> > just your opinion?  request that the moderator ban
> > me. But don't ban the indicator salesmen, the
> > rediculous prognosticators and their pay sites.
> >
> > freedom of expression comes in many forms.
> > restriction of expression, wasn't that tried
> > in a few third world countries, with less than
> > stellar results?
> >
> > take care......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Duke Jones - Portfolio Manager"
> > <Duke.Jones@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > I am a lurker on the board and I have resisted the temptation to
> > fire back a
> > > response after a couple of your emails but this last one with 
the
> > reference
> > > to "that Mary woman" was enough.
> > >
> > > First, lets leave personal issues aside from the list as some 
of us
> > find
> > > this extremely offensive. Secondly, most on the board attempt to
> > offer
> > > something constructive. I am not saying all are good and do not
> > warrant
> > > criticism or challenge but in your case you do nothing to 
further
> > the
> > > discussion other than launch a few over used statistical 
phrases and
> > > satirical remarks.
> > >
> > > Lets face it.to have a truly in statistically significant system
> > the number
> > > of observations required would be a couple of lifetimes. I
> > personally don't
> > > care to wait that long so I play the best odds my systems will 
give.
> > >
> > > Last, if I wanted to read or listen to another talking head I 
would
> > just
> > > flip on CNBC. Either offer something constructive or leave us 
alone.
> > >
> > > Duke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jeff97_98_1998 [mailto:jprroth@x...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:35 AM
> > > To: realtraders@xxxx
> > > Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
> > >
> > > Karen,
> > > I don't believe in Elliott Wave,
> > > BUT I do use a lotta Gerri Curl.
> > >
> > > Put 20 Elliott Believers in a room,
> > > give them the same chart, and you will get
> > > 20 different wave counts.
> > >
> > > Kinda like a Rorschach Ink Blot Test.
> > > Can also throw in a rusty water stain on a chruch wall,
> > > resembling that "Mary" woman.
> > > The mind is a terrible thing to trust.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Karen Beckwith" <hoticetea@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > > > Jeff:
> > > > Looking for a holy grail?  Have u ever looked into the EW3
> > (Elliott
> > > Wave)
> > > > software?  I can't find anyone who uses it, but it sounds 
awfully
> > > good.
> > > > Anyone here familiar w/ EW3?
> > > > best wishes,
> > > > karen
> > > > ps - May the force be with you.
> > > > :>)
> > > > :>)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "jeff97_98_1998" <jprroth@xxxx>
> > > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM
> > > > Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "If one tries to fight these forces they will be destroyed. 
If
> > one
> > > > > can unite and redirect these forces to
> > > > > ones advantage, one should be able to progress quite 
swiftly."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a re-run of Kung Fu.
> > > > > Grasshopper, my son, be of unity with the universe.
> > > > > Now catch this fly in my soup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please enlighten me, how does one unite and redirect these
> > forces
> > > to
> > > > > ones advantage?
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I redirect a drought in the midwest, terrorist attack
> > > crashing
> > > > > the S & P , lumber import regulations vs. canadian exports?
> > > > >
> > > > > Fundamentals, schmundamentals, blah, blah.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have the force, the unity, the polarity...
> > > > >
> > > > > Beam me up Scotty,  for I have discovered how markets
> > > > > work,  yet I waste my time trolling for fish.
> > > > > Why is that?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > > > > > Reinar,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   From one sailor to another, when one's sailboat hits a 
sand
> > > bar,
> > > > > that's
> > > > > > called running a ground and that's not a good thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  I know it's time for me to take a vacation. Your sailing
> > > metaphor
> > > > > is
> > > > > > starting to make sense to me.<G>  Seriously, I agree that
> > > sailing
> > > > > is a good
> > > > > > analogy for trading, but not for the reasons you have 
stated.
> > I
> > > > > think
> > > > > > sailing is a good analogy for trading because in order to 
be
> > > > > successful, one
> > > > > > must join with the huge natural forces at work.  If one 
tries
> > to
> > > > > fight these
> > > > > > forces they will be destroyed. If one can unite and 
redirect
> > > these
> > > > > forces to
> > > > > > ones advantage, one should be able to progress quite 
swiftly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Gann fans - the ideal position to attain maximum speed 
is to
> > > have
> > > > > the sail
> > > > > > at a 45 degree angle to the wind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nautically,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Norman
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "reinar2020" <reinar2020@xxxx>
> > > > > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track record
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Elk
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not only will I continue to use sailing as a metaphor 
but I
> > > will
> > > > > > > expand the use. There are several reasons. Selling 
to "the
> > > > > traders"
> > > > > > > market is too limiting and more imortant.... If you can
> > think
> > > > > like a
> > > > > > > sailor you can think like a profitable trader......
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you have ever been sailing you would know that it is 
kind
> > > of a
> > > > > > > zen like experience where you have a very specific 
focus.
> > All
> > > the
> > > > > BS
> > > > > > > that is provided by the media etc is gone.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are other advantages. Any monkey can draw an 
Andrews
> > > line
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > if you read his totally incomplete "free" 60 page 
lit.... at
> > > any
> > > > > > > time there are at least 20 or so that come in tomorrow. 
So
> > > which
> > > > > > > ones do you use? Rather than take the standard approach 
of
> > > here
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > the lines .....let get overwhelmed with stuff that is
> > > useless.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and a 
marker.
> > > > > > > I did something similar in Vienna seminars and the 
sucess
> > > rate of
> > > > > > > the students over a long time period was very high.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Focus upon the chicken ( the end result.. you really 
want )
> > > not on
> > > > > > > the eggs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We look for 4 things...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) sand bars (support and resistance lines) where prices
> > stop
> > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > bar or 2 and then go through
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) sand bars where prices go through and then go back 
to it
> > to
> > > > > touch
> > > > > > > it before continuing in the proper direction
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (the above are very handy for adding on positions or 
getting
> > > in
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > definable risk....the other side of the sand bar line)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3) and finally sand bars that are likely to produce a
> > > tradeable
> > > > > > > pivot ....like i pointed out on thursday in an email I 
sent
> > > out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 4) and then how to find markers (probable future pivot
> > points)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now instead of learning how to draw all of those silly 
lines
> > > you
> > > > > > > learned how to draw lines that produced the
> > > above .......wouldn't
> > > > > > > Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh by the way did you ever learn what the Andrews "ROS" 
line
> > > was?
> > > > > > > Hint....its a sand bar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > R
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, Infernal Elk <infernalelk@xxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>  John either you are blind or you faded the 
forecast.
> > > > > > > > >>  ...or does north mean go short to you?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>  R
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > maybe if you spoke in market terms rather than cryptic
> > > pseudo-
> > > > > > > poetic
> > > > > > > > "nautical" terms, people would understand you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > if your desire is to communicate, then do so 
CLEARLY.  if
> > > your
> > > > > > > desire
> > > > > > > > is to tease and to draw people in to buy your product
> > > you'll do
> > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > to speak clearly as well.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > we're not sailors.  we're traders.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - *lk
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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