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What is your take on XAU?
wavewise...my GET program shows a w4 and my thought is that it could began a
retrace or w5 to low 60's. Thanks for your thoughts in advance.
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Don
Ewers
To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:59
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record
Kent,Sorry you are offended, but so tired of what
appears as attempt to wreck,what was a good list.Yep I am a EW-er
and proud of it so throw your barb's. It helps in what Ido and
I amsorry you can't grasp the concept with all it's details, but itdoes
take some time and some study. What are you "per se", I have
noticedyou have never offered that up, just basically sarcasm, maybe a
Sarcasm-er?From your past posts, it could be easily be considered you
are not a fan ofanyone on the list . . . so no sweat here if you are
"offended"? You havequickly rose as a MB protector not only now but
in the past, yet profess tohave little association with him . . .right I
got it.We are not fools . . . to not see what we see . . and I am
not the only one. . .Must be about time to trash any TA technique,
market opinions . . . yawn?don ewers----- Original Message
-----From: "Kent Rollins" <kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:56
PMSubject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> First of
all, I find your post personally offensive. It doesn't
matterwhy> I'm offended. That fact that I am is enough to
require that you changeyour> behavior.>> Secondly, to
answer your question, Don: how did he know you are an EW'er?> You last
name? HELLO!!!>> Kent>>> -----
Original Message -----> From: "Don Ewers"
<dbewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002
9:21 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record>>> I stand corrected ahhh . . well . .
. maybe no, how did you know I wasan> EW'er since last post to that
was way before your first post (don't tellme> you read the
achives), then a "sleeper'' post, then nothing until TG> recently
disappeared hmmmm , your MO is unmistakable MB. First
your"style> of reply" now changed (once pointed out by a list
member) but the "need to> respond" to anyone that posts on this list
with a sarcastic reply . . .nope> no mistake about it MB all the
way?>>> ----- Original Message -----> From:
"jeff97_98_1998" <jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx>> To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002
7:03 PM> Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record>>> > Nope. can't pin this one on Mark.>
> My mouth has been washed out with soap, for> > I have been a
baaad boy.> > For all the folks I have offended with my deeply
religious rhetoric,> > I am sorry for causing you pain and
suffering.> > Apparently a few nerve endings are to near the skin,
and my remarks> > have agitated.> > I shall refrain from
anything remotely controversial, and will> > now agree with every
rediculous statement, observation, remark,> > analysis, indicator
salesman,scam , whatever. No waves from me..> > Oops, I said
wave, That might be> > misinterpreted as an attack on an Elliott
Wave believer. sorry for> > that remark.> >> >
Nope, not mark brown.> >> > has been fun.....>
>> >> >> >> > --- In
realtraders@xxxx, "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx> wrote:> > >
Mark is that you, formally TG . . . . ?> > >> > >
----- Original Message -----> > > From: "jeff97_98_1998"
<jprroth@xxxx>> > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:49 AM> > > Subject:
[RT] Re: forecasting-track record> > >> > >>
> > > Duke,> > > >> > > > So news
reports on national television, interviewing> > > > people
"seeing" the Virgin Mary in a rust stain,> > > > that is
OK. But if I make reference to it, that is> > > > not
OK, blaspheme ? A little touch of hipocracy.> > > >
Censorship, the Americam way. Do you understand> > > >
sarcasm? Put me on auto ignore.> > > > Non constructive
for you, may be constructive> > > > for anothers. do you
speak for all, or is this> > > > just your opinion?
request that the moderator ban> > > > me. But don't ban the
indicator salesmen, the> > > > rediculous prognosticators and
their pay sites.> > > >> > > > freedom of
expression comes in many forms.> > > > restriction of
expression, wasn't that tried> > > > in a few third world
countries, with less than> > > > stellar results?> >
> >> > > > take care......> > >
>> > > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Duke Jones - Portfolio
Manager"> > > > <Duke.Jones@xxxx> wrote:> >
> > > Jeff,> > > > >> > > > > I
am a lurker on the board and I have resisted the temptation to> >
> > fire back a> > > > > response after a couple of
your emails but this last one with> > the> > > >
reference> > > > > to "that Mary woman" was enough.>
> > > >> > > > > First, lets leave personal
issues aside from the list as some> > of us> > > >
find> > > > > this extremely offensive. Secondly, most on
the board attempt to> > > > offer> > > > >
something constructive. I am not saying all are good and do not> >
> > warrant> > > > > criticism or challenge but in
your case you do nothing to> > further> > > >
the> > > > > discussion other than launch a few over used
statistical> > phrases and> > > > > satirical
remarks.> > > > >> > > > > Lets face
it.to have a truly in statistically significant system> > > >
the number> > > > > of observations required would be a
couple of lifetimes. I> > > > personally don't> >
> > > care to wait that long so I play the best odds my systems
will> > give.> > > > >> > > >
> Last, if I wanted to read or listen to another talking head I>
> would> > > > just> > > > > flip on
CNBC. Either offer something constructive or leave us> >
alone.> > > > >> > > > > Duke>
> > > >> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----> > >
> > From: jeff97_98_1998 [mailto:jprroth@xxxx]> > > >
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:35 AM> > > > > To:
realtraders@xxxx> > > > > Subject: [RT] Re:
forecasting-track record> > > > >> > > >
> Karen,> > > > > I don't believe in Elliott
Wave,> > > > > BUT I do use a lotta Gerri Curl.>
> > > >> > > > > Put 20 Elliott Believers in a
room,> > > > > give them the same chart, and you will
get> > > > > 20 different wave counts.> > >
> >> > > > > Kinda like a Rorschach Ink Blot
Test.> > > > > Can also throw in a rusty water stain on a
chruch wall,> > > > > resembling that "Mary" woman.>
> > > > The mind is a terrible thing to trust.> > >
> >> > > > > regards,> > > >
>> > > > > jeff> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Karen
Beckwith" <hoticetea@xxxx>> > wrote:> > > >
> > Jeff:> > > > > > Looking for a holy
grail? Have u ever looked into the EW3> > > >
(Elliott> > > > > Wave)> > > > > >
software? I can't find anyone who uses it, but it sounds> >
awfully> > > > > good.> > > > > >
Anyone here familiar w/ EW3?> > > > > > best
wishes,> > > > > > karen> > > > >
> ps - May the force be with you.> > > > > >
:>)> > > > > > :>)> > > > >
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----->
> > > > > From: "jeff97_98_1998" <jprroth@xxxx>>
> > > > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>> > > >
> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM> > > > > >
Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "If one tries to fight these forces
they will be destroyed.> > If> > > > one>
> > > > > > can unite and redirect these forces to>
> > > > > > ones advantage, one should be able to progress
quite> > swiftly."> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > Sounds
like a re-run of Kung Fu.> > > > > > > Grasshopper,
my son, be of unity with the universe.> > > > > > >
Now catch this fly in my soup.> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > Please enlighten me, how does one unite and
redirect these> > > > forces> > > > >
to> > > > > > > ones advantage?> > >
> > > >> > > > > > > How do I redirect a
drought in the midwest, terrorist attack> > > > >
crashing> > > > > > > the S & P , lumber import
regulations vs. canadian exports?> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Fundamentals, schmundamentals,
blah, blah.> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > I have the force, the unity, the polarity...> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Beam me up Scotty,
for I have discovered how markets> > > > > > >
work, yet I waste my time trolling for fish.> > > > >
> > Why is that?> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Norman Winski"
<nwinski@xxxx>> > wrote:> > > > > > >
> Reinar,> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > From one sailor to another, when one's
sailboat hits a> > sand> > > > > bar,>
> > > > > > that's> > > > > > >
> called running a ground and that's not a good thing.> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > I
know it's time for me to take a vacation. Your sailing> > > >
> metaphor> > > > > > > is> > > >
> > > > starting to make sense to me.<G> Seriously, I
agree that> > > > > sailing> > > > >
> > is a good> > > > > > > > analogy for
trading, but not for the reasons you have> > stated.> >
> > I> > > > > > > think> > > >
> > > > sailing is a good analogy for trading because in order
to> > be> > > > > > > successful,
one> > > > > > > > must join with the huge natural
forces at work. If one> > tries> > > >
to> > > > > > > fight these> > > >
> > > > forces they will be destroyed. If one can unite
and> > redirect> > > > > these> > >
> > > > forces to> > > > > > > > ones
advantage, one should be able to progress quite> > swiftly.>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> Gann fans - the ideal position to attain maximum speed> >
is to> > > > > have> > > > > > >
the sail> > > > > > > > at a 45 degree angle to
the wind.> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > Nautically,> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Norman> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > -----
Original Message -----> > > > > > > > From:
"reinar2020" <reinar2020@xxxx>> > > > > > >
> To: <realtraders@xxxx>> > > > > > > >
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM> > > > > > >
> Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track record> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > Elk> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Not only will I continue
to use sailing as a metaphor> > but I> > > > >
will> > > > > > > > > expand the use. There are
several reasons. Selling> > to "the> > > > > >
> traders"> > > > > > > > > market is too
limiting and more imortant.... If you can> > > > think>
> > > > > > like a> > > > > > >
> > sailor you can think like a profitable trader......> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > If you have ever been
sailing you would know that it is> > kind> > > >
> of a> > > > > > > > > zen like experience
where you have a very specific> > focus.> > > >
All> > > > > the> > > > > > >
BS> > > > > > > > > that is provided by the
media etc is gone.> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > There are other advantages. Any monkey
can draw an> > Andrews> > > > > line> >
> > > > > and> > > > > > > > >
if you read his totally incomplete "free" 60 page> > lit....
at> > > > > any> > > > > > > >
> time there are at least 20 or so that come in tomorrow.> >
So> > > > > which> > > > > > >
> > ones do you use? Rather than take the standard approach> >
of> > > > > here> > > > > > >
are> > > > > > > > > the lines .....let get
overwhelmed with stuff that is> > > > >
useless.....> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > I will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and
a> > marker.> > > > > > > > > I did
something similar in Vienna seminars and the> > sucess> >
> > > rate of> > > > > > > > > the
students over a long time period was very high.> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Focus upon
the chicken ( the end result.. you really> > want )> >
> > > not on> > > > > > > > > the
eggs.> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > We look for 4 things...> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > 1) sand
bars (support and resistance lines) where prices> > > >
stop> > > > > for> > > > > > >
a> > > > > > > > > bar or 2 and then go
through> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > 2) sand bars where prices go through and then go
back> > to it> > > > to> > > > >
> > touch> > > > > > > > > it before
continuing in the proper direction> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > (the above are very handy
for adding on positions or> > getting> > > > >
in> > > > > > > with> > > > > >
> > > definable risk....the other side of the sand bar line)>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > 3) and finally sand bars that are likely to produce a> >
> > > tradeable> > > > > > > > > pivot
....like i pointed out on thursday in an email I> > sent>
> > > > out.> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > 4) and then how to find
markers (probable future pivot> > > > points)> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> Now instead of learning how to draw all of those silly> >
lines> > > > > you> > > > > > >
> > learned how to draw lines that produced the> > > >
> above .......wouldn't> > > > > > > > >
Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Oh by the
way did you ever learn what the Andrews "ROS"> > line> >
> > > was?> > > > > > > > >
Hint....its a sand bar.> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > Regards> > > > > > > >
> R> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx,
Infernal Elk <infernalelk@xxxx>> > > > >
wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> John either you are blind or
you faded the> > forecast.> > > > > > >
> > > >> ...or does north mean go short to you?>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> R> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > maybe if
you spoke in market terms rather than cryptic> > > > >
pseudo-> > > > > > > > > poetic> >
> > > > > > > > "nautical" terms, people would
understand you.> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > if your desire is to communicate,
then do so> > CLEARLY. if> > > > >
your> > > > > > > > > desire> > >
> > > > > > > is to tease and to draw people in to buy
your product> > > > > you'll do> > > > >
> > > > better> > > > > > > > >
> to speak clearly as well.> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > we're not
sailors. we're traders.> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > - *lk> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
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