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Marie,
I do not trade the XAU or gold and would recommend
you ask StigO if he is still a memeber of this list, since there are "other
issues" involved here, particularly considering
"these times". From past posts he might be a good source, his email is <A
href="mailto:olausson@xxxxxxxxxx";>olausson@xxxxxxxxxx and he can be
found on the medianline yahoo groups list as well (a great list by the
way).
don ewers
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title=lwilkerson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Marie Wilkerson
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:21
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record
What is your take on XAU?
wavewise...my GET program shows a w4 and my thought is that it could began a
retrace or w5 to low 60's. Thanks for your thoughts in advance.
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Don
Ewers
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:59
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record
Kent,Sorry you are offended, but so tired of what
appears as attempt to wreck,what was a good list.Yep I am a
EW-er and proud of it so throw your barb's. It helps in what Ido
and I amsorry you can't grasp the concept with all it's details, but
itdoes take some time and some study. What are you "per se",
I have noticedyou have never offered that up, just basically sarcasm,
maybe a Sarcasm-er?From your past posts, it could be easily be
considered you are not a fan ofanyone on the list . . . so no
sweat here if you are "offended"? You havequickly rose as a MB
protector not only now but in the past, yet profess tohave little
association with him . . .right I got it.We are not fools . . . to
not see what we see . . and I am not the only one. . .Must be
about time to trash any TA technique, market opinions . . . yawn?don
ewers----- Original Message -----From: "Kent Rollins"
<kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:56
PMSubject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> First
of all, I find your post personally offensive. It doesn't
matterwhy> I'm offended. That fact that I am is enough to
require that you changeyour> behavior.>> Secondly,
to answer your question, Don: how did he know you are an EW'er?> You
last name? HELLO!!!>> Kent>>> -----
Original Message -----> From: "Don Ewers"
<dbewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002
9:21 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record>>> I stand corrected ahhh . . well .
. . maybe no, how did you know I wasan> EW'er since last post to
that was way before your first post (don't tellme> you read the
achives), then a "sleeper'' post, then nothing until TG> recently
disappeared hmmmm , your MO is unmistakable MB. First
your"style> of reply" now changed (once pointed out by a list
member) but the "need to> respond" to anyone that posts on this list
with a sarcastic reply . . .nope> no mistake about it MB all the
way?>>> ----- Original Message -----> From:
"jeff97_98_1998" <jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx>> To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002
7:03 PM> Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record>>> > Nope. can't pin this one on
Mark.> > My mouth has been washed out with soap, for> >
I have been a baaad boy.> > For all the folks I have offended with
my deeply religious rhetoric,> > I am sorry for causing you pain
and suffering.> > Apparently a few nerve endings are to near the
skin, and my remarks> > have agitated.> > I shall
refrain from anything remotely controversial, and will> > now
agree with every rediculous statement, observation, remark,> >
analysis, indicator salesman,scam , whatever. No waves from
me..> > Oops, I said wave, That might be> >
misinterpreted as an attack on an Elliott Wave believer. sorry for>
> that remark.> >> > Nope, not mark brown.>
>> > has been fun.....> >> >>
>> >> > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Don Ewers"
<dbewers@xxxx> wrote:> > > Mark is that you, formally TG
. . . . ?> > >> > > ----- Original Message
-----> > > From: "jeff97_98_1998" <jprroth@xxxx>>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxx>> > > Sent: Wednesday,
July 10, 2002 10:49 AM> > > Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record> > >> > >> > > >
Duke,> > > >> > > > So news reports on
national television, interviewing> > > > people "seeing" the
Virgin Mary in a rust stain,> > > > that is OK. But if
I make reference to it, that is> > > > not OK, blaspheme
? A little touch of hipocracy.> > > > Censorship, the
Americam way. Do you understand> > > > sarcasm?
Put me on auto ignore.> > > > Non constructive for you, may
be constructive> > > > for anothers. do you speak for
all, or is this> > > > just your opinion? request that
the moderator ban> > > > me. But don't ban the indicator
salesmen, the> > > > rediculous prognosticators and their
pay sites.> > > >> > > > freedom of
expression comes in many forms.> > > > restriction of
expression, wasn't that tried> > > > in a few third world
countries, with less than> > > > stellar results?>
> > >> > > > take care......> > >
>> > > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Duke Jones - Portfolio
Manager"> > > > <Duke.Jones@xxxx> wrote:> >
> > > Jeff,> > > > >> > > > >
I am a lurker on the board and I have resisted the temptation to>
> > > fire back a> > > > > response after a
couple of your emails but this last one with> > the> >
> > reference> > > > > to "that Mary woman" was
enough.> > > > >> > > > > First, lets
leave personal issues aside from the list as some> > of us>
> > > find> > > > > this extremely offensive.
Secondly, most on the board attempt to> > > > offer>
> > > > something constructive. I am not saying all are good and
do not> > > > warrant> > > > > criticism
or challenge but in your case you do nothing to> > further>
> > > the> > > > > discussion other than launch
a few over used statistical> > phrases and> > > >
> satirical remarks.> > > > >> > > >
> Lets face it.to have a truly in statistically significant
system> > > > the number> > > > > of
observations required would be a couple of lifetimes. I> > >
> personally don't> > > > > care to wait that long so
I play the best odds my systems will> > give.> > >
> >> > > > > Last, if I wanted to read or listen to
another talking head I> > would> > > >
just> > > > > flip on CNBC. Either offer something
constructive or leave us> > alone.> > > >
>> > > > > Duke> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > >> > > > >
-----Original Message-----> > > > > From: jeff97_98_1998
[mailto:jprroth@xxxx]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10,
2002 9:35 AM> > > > > To: realtraders@xxxx> >
> > > Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> > >
> >> > > > > Karen,> > > > > I
don't believe in Elliott Wave,> > > > > BUT I do use a
lotta Gerri Curl.> > > > >> > > > >
Put 20 Elliott Believers in a room,> > > > > give them
the same chart, and you will get> > > > > 20 different
wave counts.> > > > >> > > > > Kinda
like a Rorschach Ink Blot Test.> > > > > Can also throw
in a rusty water stain on a chruch wall,> > > > >
resembling that "Mary" woman.> > > > > The mind is a
terrible thing to trust.> > > > >> > > >
> regards,> > > > >> > > > >
jeff> > > > >> > > > >> >
> > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Karen Beckwith"
<hoticetea@xxxx>> > wrote:> > > > > >
Jeff:> > > > > > Looking for a holy grail? Have
u ever looked into the EW3> > > > (Elliott> > >
> > Wave)> > > > > > software? I can't
find anyone who uses it, but it sounds> > awfully> >
> > > good.> > > > > > Anyone here familiar
w/ EW3?> > > > > > best wishes,> > > >
> > karen> > > > > > ps - May the force be with
you.> > > > > > :>)> > > > >
> :>)> > > > > >> > > > >
> ----- Original Message -----> > > > > > From:
"jeff97_98_1998" <jprroth@xxxx>> > > > > > To:
<realtraders@xxxx>> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July
07, 2002 9:50 AM> > > > > > Subject: [RT] Re:
forecasting-track record> > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > "If one tries to fight these forces they will be
destroyed.> > If> > > > one> > > >
> > > can unite and redirect these forces to> > > >
> > > ones advantage, one should be able to progress quite>
> swiftly."> > > > > > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Sounds like a re-run of
Kung Fu.> > > > > > > Grasshopper, my son, be of
unity with the universe.> > > > > > > Now catch
this fly in my soup.> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > Please enlighten me, how does one unite and redirect
these> > > > forces> > > > > to>
> > > > > > ones advantage?> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > How do I redirect a drought
in the midwest, terrorist attack> > > > >
crashing> > > > > > > the S & P , lumber import
regulations vs. canadian exports?> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Fundamentals, schmundamentals,
blah, blah.> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > I have the force, the unity, the polarity...> >
> > > > >> > > > > > > Beam me up
Scotty, for I have discovered how markets> > > > >
> > work, yet I waste my time trolling for fish.> >
> > > > > Why is that?> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Norman
Winski" <nwinski@xxxx>> > wrote:> > > > >
> > > Reinar,> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > From one sailor to another,
when one's sailboat hits a> > sand> > > > >
bar,> > > > > > > that's> > > >
> > > > called running a ground and that's not a good
thing.> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > I know it's time for me to take a vacation. Your
sailing> > > > > metaphor> > > > >
> > is> > > > > > > > starting to make
sense to me.<G> Seriously, I agree that> > > >
> sailing> > > > > > > is a good> >
> > > > > > analogy for trading, but not for the reasons
you have> > stated.> > > > I> > >
> > > > think> > > > > > > > sailing
is a good analogy for trading because in order to> > be>
> > > > > > successful, one> > > > >
> > > must join with the huge natural forces at work. If
one> > tries> > > > to> > > > >
> > fight these> > > > > > > > forces they
will be destroyed. If one can unite and> > redirect> >
> > > these> > > > > > > forces to>
> > > > > > > ones advantage, one should be able to
progress quite> > swiftly.> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Gann fans - the ideal
position to attain maximum speed> > is to> > > >
> have> > > > > > > the sail> > >
> > > > > at a 45 degree angle to the wind.> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
Nautically,> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > Norman> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > ----- Original
Message -----> > > > > > > > From: "reinar2020"
<reinar2020@xxxx>> > > > > > > > To:
<realtraders@xxxx>> > > > > > > > Sent:
Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM> > > > > > > >
Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track record> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > Elk> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Not only will I
continue to use sailing as a metaphor> > but I> > >
> > will> > > > > > > > > expand the
use. There are several reasons. Selling> > to "the> >
> > > > > traders"> > > > > > > >
> market is too limiting and more imortant.... If you can> >
> > think> > > > > > > like a> >
> > > > > > > sailor you can think like a profitable
trader......> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > If you have ever been sailing you would know that it is>
> kind> > > > > of a> > > > > >
> > > zen like experience where you have a very specific>
> focus.> > > > All> > > > >
the> > > > > > > BS> > > > >
> > > > that is provided by the media etc is gone.> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > There are other advantages. Any monkey can draw an> >
Andrews> > > > > line> > > > > >
> and> > > > > > > > > if you read his
totally incomplete "free" 60 page> > lit.... at> > >
> > any> > > > > > > > > time there are
at least 20 or so that come in tomorrow.> > So> > >
> > which> > > > > > > > > ones do you
use? Rather than take the standard approach> > of> >
> > > here> > > > > > > are> >
> > > > > > > the lines .....let get overwhelmed with
stuff that is> > > > > useless.....> > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> I will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and a> >
marker.> > > > > > > > > I did something
similar in Vienna seminars and the> > sucess> > >
> > rate of> > > > > > > > > the
students over a long time period was very high.> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Focus
upon the chicken ( the end result.. you really> > want )>
> > > > not on> > > > > > > > >
the eggs.> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > We look for 4 things...> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1)
sand bars (support and resistance lines) where prices> > > >
stop> > > > > for> > > > > > >
a> > > > > > > > > bar or 2 and then go
through> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > 2) sand bars where prices go through and then
go back> > to it> > > > to> > > >
> > > touch> > > > > > > > > it
before continuing in the proper direction> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > (the above
are very handy for adding on positions or> > getting> >
> > > in> > > > > > > with> >
> > > > > > > definable risk....the other side of the
sand bar line)> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > 3) and finally sand bars that are likely
to produce a> > > > > tradeable> > > >
> > > > > pivot ....like i pointed out on thursday in an
email I> > sent> > > > > out.> > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> 4) and then how to find markers (probable future pivot> >
> > points)> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > Now instead of learning how to draw
all of those silly> > lines> > > > >
you> > > > > > > > > learned how to draw
lines that produced the> > > > > above
.......wouldn't> > > > > > > > > Andrews
really work .....and very easily at that?> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Oh by the way
did you ever learn what the Andrews "ROS"> > line> >
> > > was?> > > > > > > > >
Hint....its a sand bar.> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > Regards> > > > > > > >
> R> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > --- In
realtraders@xxxx, Infernal Elk <infernalelk@xxxx>> > >
> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >>
John either you are blind or you faded the> > forecast.>
> > > > > > > > > >> ...or does north
mean go short to you?> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >>
R> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > maybe if you spoke in market terms rather
than cryptic> > > > > pseudo-> > > > >
> > > > poetic> > > > > > > > >
> "nautical" terms, people would understand you.> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > if your desire is to communicate, then do so> >
CLEARLY. if> > > > > your> > > >
> > > > > desire> > > > > > > >
> > is to tease and to draw people in to buy your product> >
> > > you'll do> > > > > > > > >
better> > > > > > > > > > to speak clearly
as well.> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > we're not sailors. we're
traders.> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > - *lk> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > >
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