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> REALTRADERS Digest 587
>
>Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Re: Gen: Computer Question?
> by Alan Sears <asears@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 2) Re: Gen: Computer Question?
> by "Bob Young" <polaris3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 3) Re: Gen: Computer Question?
> by nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 4) Re: MKT: Glenn Nealy
> by nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 5) Re: MKT: Glenn Nealy
> by JER3CUBE@xxxxxxx
> 6) RE: March Sugar
> by Frank Chamanara <fchaman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 7) Re: OPTN: Optionetics/Fontanills
> by THE DOCTOR <droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 8) Re: Gen-Fight Night or is that Fright Nite!
> by Eric <eric3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 9) Re: OPTN: Optionetics/Fontanills
> by Gregg Murray <eastus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 10) stocks:SPX
> by James Charles <money4u@xxxxxxxxx>
> 11) MKT - OEX with New Swing Machine Projections
> by Clyde Lee <clydelee@xxxxxxx>
> 12) Gen: Monday may be a nightmare day for me!
> by "Don Green" <reen@xxxxxxx>
> 13) Re: stocks:SPX
> by MrWallSt97@xxxxxxx
> 14) Short Term Trade set-ups
> by Darrell Zang <dczang@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 15) Re: Gen: Monday may be a nightmare day for me!
> by nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 16) ADMIN: RT Projects Update
> by Eddie Kwong <ekthree@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 17) RE: Chat Rooms: Comments
> by Dave Lord <zdave@xxxxxxxxx>
> 18) ADMIN: Don Green
> by Eddie Kwong <ekthree@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 19) Re: stocks:SPX
> by Dick byrd <byrd@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 20) Re: Gen-Fight Night or is that Fright Nite!
> by "Robert T. Dombrowski" <ah149@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 21) Re: Gen: Computer Question?
> by "Robert T. Dombrowski" <ah149@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 22) Re: Gen: Computer Question?
> by "John O. Romero" <romeroj@xxxxxxx>
> 23) Re: Gen: Monday may be a nightmare day for me!
> by JER3CUBE@xxxxxxx
> 24) Re: Gen-Fight Night or is that Fright Nite!
> by Bando57@xxxxxxx
> 25) Jan Lumber(LB)
> by Frank Chamanara <fchaman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 26) Re: MKT: Gold Stk to buy?
> by JJSALYER@xxxxxxx
> 27) Re: OPTN: Optionetics/Fontanills
> by TWA7663@xxxxxxx
> 28) Sv: MKT: Glenn Nealy
> by "Stig Olausson" <olausson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 29) Gen. Fight/Fright Night
> by jdfo <jdfo@xxxxxxxxx>
> 30) GEN - TS/AIQ
> by "bobrabcd" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 31) Re: Short Term Trade set-ups
> by Walt Downs <knight@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 32) Re: Short Term Trade set-ups
> by gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Gary Funck)
> 33) Re: Sv: MKT: Glenn Nealy
> by Michael Guess <mjg@xxxxxxx>
> 34) Re: GEN: Feedback on Robert Krausz's Fibonacci Trader
> by Michael Guess <mjg@xxxxxxx>
> 35) Re: Short Term Trade set-ups
> by Walt Downs <knight@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 36) Re: Short Term Trade set-ups
> by Walt Downs <knight@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 37) Re:admin & Eddie's comments
> by "Tom Stein" <ComFut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 38) GEN - Fibonacci Trader
> by "bobrabcd" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 39) Re: GEN - TS/AIQ
> by "Lee Clayton DDS" <dds2@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 40) netscape
> by James Charles <money4u@xxxxxxxxx>
> 41) Re: Short Term Trade set-ups
> by Walt Downs <knight@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 42) GEN: Don Green Lynching
> by RDZig@xxxxxxx
> 43) GEN: OEX Stats
> by rmac@xxxxxxxx (Ronald McEwan)
> 44) STK: OverBurdened by Work_Load
> by "Richard Harrisson" <richardh@xxxxxxxxx>
> 45) STK: Bear Markets~ Harry D. Schultz
> by "Richard Harrisson" <richardh@xxxxxxxxx>
> 46) Re: GEN: Don Green Lynching
> by tomgo <tomgo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 47) Re: OPTN: Optionetics/Fontanills
> by THE DOCTOR <droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 48) Gen: Computer Question?
> by Patrick Slevin <slevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 49) Re: Gen-Fight Night or is that Fright Nite!
> by THE DOCTOR <droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 50) Todd Mitchell's Training
> by John Dundee <jdundee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 51) STK: Bear Markets~ Harry D. Schultz -Reply
> by "Steven C. Walker" <Steve@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 52) Re: GEN: Don Green Lynching
> by Patrick Slevin <slevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 53) Re: netscape
> by Joe Frabosilio <joe6964@xxxxxxxx>
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:04:33 -0400
>From: Alan Sears <asears@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Gen: Computer Question?
>Message-ID: <34527B01.447686A@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> I understand the uses of TO: CC:, and BCC:, but what I am not sure is
how to
>> bunch all of these e-mail address into one package address. I have
>> considered making a format message and adding all of the addresses to it
and
>> then save it.
>>
>> I know there must be a way. I am pretty computer smart, but this is a new
>> challenge.
>
>In Netscape Communicator you can select
>
>Add new list (in address book)
>then add all the email addresses to the list
>
>Every message sent to this list address will be CC'd to
>all the email addresses on the list.
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:56:41 -0500
>From: "Bob Young" <polaris3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Gen: Computer Question?
>Message-ID: <199710252308.TAA02209@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
>Don,
>
>I was one of your 200 respondents for the mailing list! In my message I
mentioned
>Pegasus Mail as a possible means of managing such a list - but, with 200
to read, I
>expect you skipped it. I don't blame you!
>
>Anyway, Pegasus has a 'distribution list' manager. You just compile a
simple text
>file of all the e-mail addresses, one per line, and give the list a name.
Then you can
>send a message to all 200 or however many addresses with no more effort than
>sending to a single address. If a simple code, like DT, daytrades, or
whatever is
>included in the subject line of incoming messages, it will automatically
sort them into
>a folder on download. There are lots of other really neat features.
>
>Pegasus is available for FREE download from www.pegasus.usa.com
>No need to buy anything new!
>
>Bob Young
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:58:09 -0700
>From: nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: reen@xxxxxxx
>Cc: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: Gen: Computer Question?
>Message-ID: <3452B1C1.2165@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
>Don Green wrote:
>>
>> WOW,
>> Well, I have had a pretty heavy response to my maiing list offering. The
>> problem, which seems more apparent with each new e-mail address, is how to
>> bundled a large number of address's 200 plus into a single group mailing.
>> I presently use both Netscape communicator and IE4 Outlook newest versions,
>> for handling mail.
>> I understand the uses of TO: CC:, and BCC:, but what I am not sure is
how to
>> bunch all of these e-mail address into one package address. I have
>> considered making a format message and adding all of the addresses to it
and
>> then save it.
>>
>> I know there must be a way. I am pretty computer smart, but this is a new
>> challenge.
>>
>> Any ideas other than buy something new would be appreciated.
>>
>> digging a big hole...!
>>
>> Regards
>> Don Green
>
>Don,
> I gotta hand it to you. It is simply amazing that hundreds want to
>learn from someone who told everyone that he is a 15 year old teen
>and has never traded. I think this must be a function of the current
>mania in that it is a manifestation of people's desperate and insatiable
>greed and desire for excitement.
> Don, I hope before you invest too much time in this, be sure you get
>your homework done for school each day. Education is the key to the
>quality of your future. We could teach a chimpanzee to trade and make a
>fortune in this bull market. The problem comes when you are sitting
>there with millions, what do you do with the rest of your life? This is
>when you will most appreciate having gained a well rounded education.
>
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>Norman
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:16:43 -0700
>From: nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: JBP42@xxxxxxx
>Cc: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: MKT: Glenn Nealy
>Message-ID: <3452B61B.496B@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
>JBP42@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>> Christopher Carolan's spiral calendar happens to have a trend change in
>> Silver for the week ending 10 - 24 - 97.
>
>NW: Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought CC's harmonics were
>tuned to the Full and New Moon's? If this is correct, the last Full
>Moon was October 16 and the next New Moon is Oct. 31 (A Blue New Moon).
>So it looks to me that the calculations may be off a little bit. By the
>way, a little lower and Silver will enter my initial buy zone. If it
>holds the $4.60 area, I would expect a minimum swing high of $5.75
>before there is a significant correction.
> A final note, the two last important lows in Silver, occurred near
>a New Moon in a water sign. This makes 10/31 more interesting. Anyone
>know "Blue Moon" or "By The Light of the Silvery Moon"?
>
>Mooningly,
>
>Norman
>
>
> I have followed this concept for a
>> couple of years. I happen to think that bonds and stocks are going lower
>> based on the volatility I have seen around the August 1 trend change period
>> for bonds and the October 16 period in stocks.
>>
>> The sharp selloff in metals 10 - 24 would appear to suggest that there
will
>> be an advance into the projected Feb. 98 period.
>>
>> Gold made a 1.618 measurement into the friday lows.
>>
>> I agree with the ideas expressed about stocks down, bonds down, and gold
up.
>>
>> Not in a straight line, but suprises on the up side in metals, down side in
>> the other two markets.
>>
>> Another perspective arriving at the same conclusion.
>>
>> Jim Peeke j.p.@xxxxxxxx
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:26:24 -0400 (EDT)
>From: JER3CUBE@xxxxxxx
>To: nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: MKT: Glenn Nealy
>Message-ID: <971025202623_1034104315@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>
>In a message dated 97-10-25 20:17:29 EDT, nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
><< A final note, the two last important lows in Silver, occurred near
> a New Moon in a water sign. This makes 10/31 more interesting. Anyone
> know "Blue Moon" or "By The Light of the Silvery Moon"?
>
> Mooningly,
>
> Norman
> >>
>NO, but if you'll hum mmmm a little maybe it'll come back to me.
>
>Would you settle for "How High the Moon"?
>
>We are all for en-LIGHT-ment........."SHINE ON"
>
>GerryB/jer33:3
>learner/teacher
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:13:07 -0400
>From: Frank Chamanara <fchaman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: March Sugar
>Message-ID: <01BCE183.2D3143E0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
>Dave,
>
>You're absolutely right about the short side of this market. I also think
you can play this market on the short side, as long as Sugar closes below
the support level at 11.70. You see, there are many ways to profit here.
One thing is for certain, I will never try to chase this market. The real
challenge is to stay on the right side, and exit on time when it hits your
stop level.
>
>This market shows a very strong balance, meaning prices keep bouncing up
and down from its support and resistance levels. I thinks this might be a
good candidate for day trading, but I am a position trader, and rather wait
and see some sign of break out, either to the up or down side.
>
>Happy trading,
>
>Frank
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Ickes [SMTP:harmony01@xxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 1997 4:09 PM
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group
>Subject: FUT:March Sugar
>
>Frank,
>
>You said:
>
>I am not a bar chartist like you, but to add to your March Sugar's
>observation, I have the
>following:
>1) Weekly trend is down, but the daily trend is up and rising,
>2) The momentum indicator(ADX) is at 13. This could be a good signal of
>a possible
> breakout,
>3) Open Interest, and Volume are increasing, meaning fuel, and liquidity
>are added to this
> market,
>4) I have a support at 11.70, and resistance at 11.90. This Friday,
>Sugar closed right below the resistance level.
>
>
>You have given great rerasons for being short this market:
>
>1. Until weekly trend changes, it's still south
>
>2. ADX indicates breakout . . . to downside maybe??
>
>3. With Open Interest increasing, I believe that's bearish. Here's why. The
>commercials are the boss of these commodities. Commercials are basically
>hedgers. Therefore, increased OI indicates more selling than buying by the
>'bog boys'
>
>4. The 11.90 resistance has not been broken yet!
>
>I would be very cautious of any buys here based on # 1 & 3. The sidelines
>is prudent here. BTW What's the public think; they're often wrong!!
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:47:34 -0500
>From: THE DOCTOR <droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: eastus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: OPTN: Optionetics/Fontanills
>Message-ID: <34527706.27B1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
>I take flack for this every time it comes, but IMHO George and his group
>do a pretty good job. HOWEVER, to really benefit from his ideas you
>need a fairly large account and a huge shortcoming in his work is his
>lack of balance as to account size.
>
>Many of his presentations are done in conjunction with Dr J ..Jon
>Najarian...and in all fairness he is a good friend. Jon and I have done
>a lot of seminars together and we both appear in Chapter 1 of
>"Supertraders". Some years back we had the opportunity to track some of
>his customers when their B/D allowed their accounts to examined.
>
>One real telling issue is looking at actual trading activity. Almost
>everytime I meet someone who tells me how successful they have been
>trading this or that the first thing I ask is "would it be O.K. to
>examine their trading records. Working for an exchange that information
>can actually be examined. Obviously it can't be disclosed without the
>investor's consent. You would be stunned how quickly claims crumble
>when folks realize you might actually be able to check their claims.
>
>Back to the point a group of Investor's who took the class...with
>accounts at a discounter....allowed the SRO to examine their
>results....they did surprisingly well(my description). The clear
>benefit they had using the Optionetics strategies was that the accounts
>were large.. The account size gave them the ability to effectively put
>the strategies to work and to diversify. Without enough money to invest
>the theories are a waste.
>
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:30:42 -0500
>From: Eric <eric3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: Gen-Fight Night or is that Fright Nite!
>Message-ID: <34529D42.2377@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>nwinski wrote:
>
>> Paper trading is a valid and worthwhile way for beginning traders to
>> learn about the markets and go thru the motions of trading. The more
>> disciplined the trader is in following strict rules which similate
>> actual trading the more likely they are to have the discipline to be
>> successful traders. Those who complain that paper trades are nothing
>> like real trades have not developed or maintained trading rules that
>> similate an actual trading enviroment. By charging yourself commissions,
>> a high slippage factor, and insisting that real time prices exceed your
>> limits in order to record a fill, a near simulation is a very real
>> possibility.
>> If you adhere to these parameters, you should have a virutal simulation
>> of real market conditions. Given this, if you can make substantial
>> "paper" profits using at least 5 to 1 equity to margin requirements,
>> over at least a six month period, you probably have a winning method of
>> trading.
>>
>> Virtually,
>>
>> Norman
>
>Agreed. You'll get no argument here. When done right, simiulated
>trading can be a good approxiamation of the real thing.
>Two problems though.
>1) Most traders don't lose because they don't understand the mechanics
>of the markets, they lose because emotion takes control of them because
>real money is involved. There is no way to simulate that.
>2) Your point is that paper trading can be a valid , necessary way to
>learn the markets, but the proper parameters you suggest for accurate
>paper trading are generally only known AND understood by market
>veterans. Most newbies who need paper trading are not sophisticated
>enough to create this highly disciplined approach to simulated trading.
>You may have been the exception.
>
>Eric
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:01:51 -0500
>From: Gregg Murray <eastus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: OPTN: Optionetics/Fontanills
>Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971025210151.006a9500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Dr. OEX:
>
>Thanks for the response. When you say you need a "fairly large account,"
>how much do you need? I'm assuming you say this because with the delta
>neutral strategies you frequently need to adjust the position by
>buying/selling more options and therefore putting in more cash or
>increasing your margin requirements.
>
>Thanks again,
>Gregg Murray
>
>At 10:47 PM 10/25/97 +0000, THE DOCTOR wrote:
>>I take flack for this every time it comes, but IMHO George and his group
>>do a pretty good job. HOWEVER, to really benefit from his ideas you
>>need a fairly large account and a huge shortcoming in his work is his
>>lack of balance as to account size.
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:02:51 -0700
>From: James Charles <money4u@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: stocks:SPX
>Message-ID: <3452DD0B.2D75@xxxxxxxxx>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
>Hi Guys,
>
>What are your thoughts and forecasts for Monday's stock market?
>
>Best wishes,
>
>James
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:13:32 -0500
>From: Clyde Lee <clydelee@xxxxxxx>
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: MKT - OEX with New Swing Machine Projections
>Message-ID: <3452B55B.DBE4D985@xxxxxxx>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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boundary="------------98C03A49BF7DD646A53C1705"
>
>Real Traders,
>
>I have made a change in the SwingMachine logic.
>
>The system now displays 3 projections based on
>averages of swings with similar rate of change
>(i.e. slopes) in the first projected leg.
>
>It is probable that if you compare the projected
>swings with prices that are occurring then you
>may end up with a much better projection of
>what will happen to the market.
>
>Still working on it!!
>
>In this case I am showing one set of projections
>based on 1 day reversals and one set of projections
>based on 2 day reversals.
>
>We can do 1,2,3,5,7, and 9 day reversals to see
>the bigger picture.
>
>
>Clyde Lee
>
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>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:37:47 -0700
>From: "Don Green" <reen@xxxxxxx>
>To: "Traders" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Gen: Monday may be a nightmare day for me!
>Message-ID: <01bce1c0$86dde230$cdc62599@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Well, do to things out of my control Monday may be a day to forget.
>
>As I have mentioned I am not just a trader, I also have some rather large
>LONG TERM investments in two stocks.
>
>Apple and Silicon Graphics, both which I have had for a while and both are
>presently losses. The funny thing!, maybe thats not the right word to use!
>Both of companies are due to make announcements that could greatly effect
>their stock price.
>
>Apple, Whether Jobs is in or out LONG-TERM, and SGI whether they lost a ton
>of money, canned their CEO and might be in play for a buy-out...
>
>Considering the potential for wild swings in the market on Monday, I will
>probably be on the sidelines and go get drunk after the news of both of
>these companies is reported...
>
>I keep having this dream or nightmare that Silicon Graphics -Cray Research
>will buy-out Apple and Steve Jobs will merge Pixar into them and make it an
>Apple/SGI-Cray/Pixar (Silicon Valley NERD FEST) will Steve Jobs as CEO!!!
>
>
>Wish me luck!!!
>Regards
>Don Green
>
>
>
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:46:00 -0400 (EDT)
>From: MrWallSt97@xxxxxxx
>To: money4u@xxxxxxxxx, realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: stocks:SPX
>Message-ID: <971025234528_783578401@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>
>In a message dated 97-10-25 23:04:09 EDT, money4u@xxxxxxxxx writes:
>
><< forecasts for Monday's stock market? >>
>
>Lower .....I Don't think this is over yet
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:30:09 -0700
>From: Darrell Zang <dczang@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: Real Traders <Realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Short Term Trade set-ups
>Message-ID: <3452C751.81A17C99@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
>Walt....
>
>I very much appreciate your graphic exampling the different types of
>single / multiple bar profiles for short term trading.
>
>I do have a couple of questions however.
>
>(1) Several of the red bars do not appear to be expansion bars as
>described in your original post.....
>
>Ie: "Signifigantly larger than previous days".
>
>Specifically I question the red bar at the beginning (Monday) of the
>second week in August. Also September's 2nd week Tuesday and it's
>fourth week Tuesday.
>
>I am aware that some of these Expansion / Contraction days are
>automatically figured by some programs with the rough formula Day range
>> ( or < ) than previous number of days......but that doesn't seem to
>work here as the red bar is smaller than even the immediate previuos
>day. ( Same situation with the very last red bar on the chart ).
>
>Am I missing something here?
>
>Darrell Zang
>
>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:58:08 -0800
>From: nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: reen@xxxxxxx
>Cc: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: Gen: Monday may be a nightmare day for me!
>Message-ID: <34531430.517@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>Don Green wrote:
>>
>> Well, do to things out of my control Monday may be a day to forget.
>>
>> As I have mentioned I am not just a trader, I also have some rather large
>> LONG TERM investments in two stocks.
>>
>> Apple and Silicon Graphics, both which I have had for a while and both are
>> presently losses. The funny thing!, maybe thats not the right word to use!
>
>NW: Just goes to show, an investor is a trader with a losing position.
>Why didn't you cut your losses on these like you do on your short term
>trades?
>
>
>> Both of companies are due to make announcements that could greatly effect
>> their stock price.
>>
>> Apple, Whether Jobs is in or out LONG-TERM, and SGI whether they lost a ton
>> of money, canned their CEO and might be in play for a buy-out...
>>
>> Considering the potential for wild swings in the market on Monday, I will
>> probably be on the sidelines and go get drunk after the news of both of
>> these companies is reported...
>
>NW: Why wait? <G>
>
>>
>> I keep having this dream or nightmare that Silicon Graphics -Cray Research
>> will buy-out Apple and Steve Jobs will merge Pixar into them and make it an
>> Apple/SGI-Cray/Pixar (Silicon Valley NERD FEST) will Steve Jobs as CEO!!!
>
>NW: I have an idea to re-organize these companies into
> Silicon Pix Ur Own Cray Apples (SPUOCA). Their software will allow you
>to go to a virtual apple orchard, create and and pick your own apples.
>This should be a core holding in any investment portfolio.
>
>Virtually,
>
>Norman
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:15:30 -0700
>From: Eddie Kwong <ekthree@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "'RealTraders Discussion Group'" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: ADMIN: RT Projects Update
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>RealTraders:
>
>Here is an update on projects that the RT staff are working on:
>
>1) What Works by RealTraders. This is my most fun project. I will describe
>the purpose of this project as well as your central role in a separate
>email.
>
>2) RealTraders Greatest Hits. This is a compilation of the best and most
>useful posts in RealTraders. If you have favorite posts that you've saved,
>please hold on to them. At a later time I will ask you to send them to me
>for inclusion.
>
>3) Improve membership screening methods. Designed to catch the crooks.
>
>3) New RIT sites. We should have at least three coming up. I will annouce
>them shortly.
>
>4) Omegaland.com: We're developing an independant website for users of
>Omega products. A lot of people have told us there's already adaquate
>coverage out there. So we're currently investigating whether there's some
>niche or need that is not currently being addressed.
>
>5) I have removed Trading Partners from the website temporarily. A lot of
>people liked that feature and I'm in the process of streamlining it.
>
>6) RealTraders Book Club. We are working on a way to more frequently
>update members on newly released good titles that are of interest our
>members. Your suggestions are welcome.
>
>7) I have temporarily removed the Favorite Websites feature from the
>website in order to change the format. Too many people were using it to
>advertising their "get rich quick" websites.
>
>8) I have lurkers in the Classifed Section who are monitoring to make sure
>that people only post private ads.
>
>
>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:41:25 -0500
>From: Dave Lord <zdave@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "'anncora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <anncora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "'RealTraders Discussion Group'" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: Chat Rooms: Comments
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>I tried it but failed. Anybody have an active URL?
>
>Thanks, Dave
>zdave@xxxxxxxxx
>
>File Not Found
>The requested URL /~anncora/index.htm was not found on this server.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Kerwin [SMTP:anncora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 1997 9:34 AM
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group
>Subject: Chat Rooms: Comments
>
>Could I get feedback on chat rooms that you feel are the best and worst...
specifically for stock and stock options... and intraday trading...
>
>
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>Have a nice Day
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>Jim Kerwin
>
>Atlanta,Georgia
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>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:45:55 -0700
>From: Eddie Kwong <ekthree@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "'RealTraders Discussion Group'" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: ADMIN: Don Green
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>It is not my usual practice to discuss member excommunications. But in this
>case, the essential facts of this case are already known due to the posts
>of some realtime traders on RT who have publicly questioned the veracity of
>Mr. Greens buy orders. In addition, when someone is as vocal as Don Green
>is, his sudden disappearance is bound to be noticed and, itself, become a
>subject of discussion. So that we can preemptively squelch rumors or
>misinformation that may fly about the list I have decided to say something
>about this matter.
>
>For the benefit of Don Green, I do not want the fact that I have just
>removed him from the list to be construed as a case of "guilty till proven
>innocent." Such a situation arises when someone is merely accused, but the
>evidence has not be submitted. But, in this case, the evidence has already
>been submitted publicly to the list by several RT Members (independently of
>each other) who watch realtime data, that Mr. Green has been stating buy
>confirmations that were below the possible Asking prices during the time
>intervals he claimed to bought; this, if true, is going to make his trading
>look better than it actually is. This is all the more amazing given that
>Mr. Green has stated that he's using "buy at market orders." Mr. Green has
>not rebutted any of these accusations as far as I know. He has, however,
>very effectively, used humor to neutralize their effect. If you really
>think about this, you should not consider it all that funny.
>
>I stand on the outside of this, in the sense that I'm not as much out get
>anybody as I am out to get the truth. I have written Mr. Green to ask him
>to give a reasonable explanation for this. If he can, then I will apologize
>for interupting his membership, kick out all the accusers for conspiring
>against Mr. Green, and then put him back on RT. If he can't, then I don't
>think he should be let back in. I think this is perfectly fair.
>
>You may be wondering why I think this is such a big deal. Well, as many of
>you, there are many new, inexperienced beginning traders that are members
>of this list. There are also many experienced traders, looking for expert
>guidance. Knowing that--don't you think if someone posts trades on RT whose
>gains are exaggerated (whether by accident or intention) that he is
>potentially harming the interests of these people?
>
>RT functions optimally when members just go about the business of trading
>and sharing information about what works and what doesn't work rather than
>when members posture themselves as "teachers."
>
>With that in mind, I look forward to welcoming Mr. Green back to the list
>when he can provide me with a reasonable explanation for these "market
>order confirms below ask."
>
>As always, please, please do not discuss this on the list. If you have
>anything to discuss with me, send it to me by private email.
>
>Eddie Kwong
>
>
>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:36:36 -0400
>From: Dick byrd <byrd@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: MrWallSt97@xxxxxxx,
> RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: stocks:SPX
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>> Prediction for Monday:
>
>Look at Hong Kong and other Asian mkts on Sunday night. If they recover
>nicely for a second day, we will turn around and go up, at least for
>Monday. If HK continues to slide down, we're in deep dodo.
>
>Dick
>
>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:47:27 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Robert T. Dombrowski" <ah149@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: realtraDERS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Gen-Fight Night or is that Fright Nite!
>Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.971026054403.28876D-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Rick,
>I've never really done it, but wouldn't paper trading be mostly invalid?
>
>I made a decision to sell Boeing when I saw it hit 49 1/8 - by the time I
>entered my order and it executed I sold at 48 15/16. When trading on
>small margins, wouldn't taking credit for an extra 3/16 on a paper trade
>skew one's expectations?
>
>Bob.
>
>
>On Sat, 25 Oct 1997 Bando57@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> Eric and I werent advocating dropping paper trading from one's
>> development..far from it...you have to paper trade....i would think quite
>> obviously even the most experienced of traders still paper trade in some
form
>> or another when embarking on a new method or modifying an existing one....
>>
>> We are just saying that, and especially for a novice, paper trading has
to be
>> put into perspective....a whole new set of parameters come into play
when the
>> money is in the mouth....the psychological factors are just so different...
>>
>> example: for those who golf, they will know what i mean
>>
>> you go to your course early in the morning and play by yourself all week in
>> prep for a big money game on the weekend....the shots just fly to the
green,
>> chips roll up the pin and the putts drop..
>>
>> then on the weekend standing there with your three buddies watching your
>> every move the jitters just naturally come...the putt that now has to be
made
>> to save a $5 press all of a sudden looks that much longer and the hole that
>> much smaller...
>>
>> paper trading is like hitting a golf ball at the range
>> real trading is hitting a driver over water into a narrow landing area
>> guarded by huge trees on either side 240 yards away.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>
>==================================================================
>Bob Dombrowski, Buffalo, NY
>ah149@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:50:10 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Robert T. Dombrowski" <ah149@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Gen: Computer Question?
>Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.971026054812.28876E-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Don,
>Why not just stick around REALTRADERS and ignore the critics - we all
>know the value of cheap criticism.
>Bob.
>
>
>On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Don Green wrote:
>
>> WOW,
>> Well, I have had a pretty heavy response to my maiing list offering. The
>> problem, which seems more apparent with each new e-mail address, is how to
>> bundled a large number of address's 200 plus into a single group mailing.
>> I presently use both Netscape communicator and IE4 Outlook newest versions,
>> for handling mail.
>> I understand the uses of TO: CC:, and BCC:, but what I am not sure is
how to
>> bunch all of these e-mail address into one package address. I have
>> considered making a format message and adding all of the addresses to it
and
>> then save it.
>>
>> I know there must be a way. I am pretty computer smart, but this is a new
>> challenge.
>>
>> Any ideas other than buy something new would be appreciated.
>>
>> digging a big hole...!
>>
>> Regards
>> Don Green
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>==================================================================
>Bob Dombrowski, Buffalo, NY
>ah149@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:43:33 -0500
>From: "John O. Romero" <romeroj@xxxxxxx>
>To: reen@xxxxxxx, - RealTraders <REALTRADERS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: Gen: Computer Question?
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>Don,
>
> in Netscape Communictor, go to the address book, Then instead of
creating a
>new personal address, you can create a newitem called a list. The LIST will
>have a uniquie name (example - Don's Followers) just like all people in your
>addr bk. The difference is that you can have many names/e-mail address in a
>list. I don't know what the max is. But if you hit it, you could create a
>second list.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Don Green wrote:
>
>> WOW,
>> Well, I have had a pretty heavy response to my maiing list offering. The
>> problem, which seems more apparent with each new e-mail address, is how to
>> bundled a large number of address's 200 plus into a single group mailing.
>
>
>
>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:31:37 -0500 (EST)
>From: JER3CUBE@xxxxxxx
>To: nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Gen: Monday may be a nightmare day for me!
>Message-ID: <971026083136_1013987634@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>In a message dated 97-10-26 01:58:48 EDT, nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
><<
> NW: I have an idea to re-organize these companies into
> Silicon Pix Ur Own Cray Apples (SPUOCA). Their software will allow you
> to go to a virtual apple orchard, create and and pick your own apples.
> This should be a core holding in any investment portfolio.
>
> Virtually,
>
> Norman
> >>
>
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