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Dorothy,
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Norman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy Carter" <dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> In an ideal world what Norman says is true and I do believe we are heading
> in that direction... However, as we have seen in the past... during Carter
> admin there was a push for solar power... until the price of the product
> (oil) is too high... it doesn't make sense to pursue alternative source of
> energy. . . . or rather it does make sense we should be but from an
economic
> stand point... we don't or have not in the past. I do belive we as a
nation
> are on that path as we are seeing auto industry developing electric cars
and
> fuel cells that off and on use petro or the cell... etc and fuel cells are
> being improved to the point to where they can be used beyond just being "a
> concept".. many of these ideas are at this time only "concept" until they
> can be used for more than a ride around the block like a toy car... we are
> making strides but at this point in time we need to develop our own
natural
> resources so we are not caught.... freezing in the dark.........and
continue
> to do r & d in these alternative energy sources................ Dorothy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
>
>
> > Gila,
> >
> > The conclusion at the end of Mr. Farah's essay is ridiculous. The US
and
> > the civilized world is addicted to oil. The way to eliminate an an
> addiction
> > is not to get more of the addiciton from another dealer. The way to
> > eliminate this addiction is to find another source of energy that is not
> > dependent on a foreign source. If you pumped the $50 Bil, we are about
to
> > spend on chasing bin Laden, on new energy sources such as fuel cell
> > technology or solar energy we could soon tell the camel jockys to go
take
> a
> > flying leap. They would soon be fighting with each other over a rapidly
> > shrinking pie. The question then remains as to whether Bush and Cheney
> will
> > be willing to abandon their oil industry buddies in favor of securing
> > America's future.
> >
> >
> > Alternatively,
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gila Brock" <brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> >
> >
> > > This article was written by Joseph Farah, an Arab-American journalist,
> not
> > > an Israeli:
> > >
> > > The Wakeup Call
> > >
> > > Joseph Farah
> > > September 13, 2001
> > >
> > > America got its long-awaited, long-anticipated and long-dreaded wakeup
> > call.
> > >
> > > The terror war came home in a big way Tuesday, Sept. 11.
> > >
> > > Everything has changed. Nothing will be the same, again.
> > >
> > > Just look at the impact the slaughter and destruction had on George W.
> > Bush
> > > and Colin Powell, for instance.
> > >
> > > For months, as Israel has faced, on a daily basis, similar terror
> > incidents
> > > carried out by people living within its very borders, Bush and Powell
> have
> > > told the Israelis over and over again: "Show restraint. Negotiate.
Don't
> > use
> > > excessive force. Don't retaliate. Break the cycle of violence."
> > >
> > > Yet, within hours of the blitzkrieg attack on the World Trade Center
and
> > > Pentagon and the dramatic hijacking of four airliners, the Bush-Powell
> > tune
> > > had changed.
> > >
> > > There was no talk of restraint. There was no talk of negotiation.
There
> > was
> > > no worry about excessive force. There was a promise of retaliation.
And
> > we,
> > > as a nation, were assured that we would not lay down in hopes the
> > attackers
> > > would be satisfied with their blood toll.
> > >
> > > Bush, in fact, asserted he would hold any nation harboring the
> terrorists
> > > accountable for their actions. Israel has been coaxed and bullied by
the
> > > U.S. to do precisely the opposite.
> > >
> > > Now the U.S. administration says it is outraged and is determined to
> > > "punish" those responsible for "the attack on freedom."
> > >
> > > I'm glad to hear it. And, far be it for me to question the sudden good
> > > judgment being shown in Washington. But it's illustrative of what I
have
> > > been saying for the last year. The U.S. has been asking Israel to
> maintain
> > > an untenable course of inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to
> ensure
> > > that terrorism would spread beyond the Middle East to the shores of
the
> > U.S.
> > > through its shaky, equivocal, timid, impotent, weak, half-way measures
> in
> > > the face of Israel's constant battle with terror.
> > >
> > > Does Bush really get it? Will he follow through on his own promise?
Will
> > his
> > > demands on Israel change? Does he plan to follow his own advice?
> > >
> > > Who knows? Time will tell. But Americans would do well to remember
this
> > > moment - to reflect on the pain, to recall this mourning. This is what
> > > Israel has been enduring in its own less dramatic way - day after day,
> > drip
> > > after drip, explosion after bloody explosion.
> > >
> > > Let me go further. We hear many pundits and administration spokesmen
> > naming
> > > names - Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one of
> them
> > > mention the home state of the chief suspect - Osama bin Laden.
> > >
> > > He's not an Afghani, by the way. He's a Saudi - and that's where his
> > support
> > > comes from. That's where his money comes from. That's his lifeline -
> > > oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi Arabia.
> > >
> > > Is Washington prepared to issue ultimatums to Mecca? If not, why not?
> > >
> > > The answer, of course, is oil - which is why as a matter of national
> > > strategic defense, America needs to do what is necessary to achieve
> energy
> > > independence as quickly as possible. Wars do tend to get messy, you
> know.
> > > And America has the natural resources to be independent of Mideast
oil.
> > >
> > > To do so, however, we've got to decide as a nation whether we are more
> > > scared of radical environmentalists or radical Muslims. That's the
> choice
> > > before us.
> > >
> > > In a very real sense, we can look at the tens of thousands of
casualties
> > in
> > > Tuesday's horror as casualties of the radical environmentalists, who
> have
> > > persuaded Americans they would be better off dependent on foreign oil
> than
> > > on marring the landscape or causing undue stress in the elk.
> > >
> > > It's time to get serious, folks. This is war. We don't fight wars with
> > > people who control our vital natural resources. But we may have to
fight
> a
> > > war with the people supplying us with oil. What are we going to do
about
> > > that?
> > >
> > > Americans may be called to sacrifice. I think they're ready for such a
> > call.
> > > They watched the devastation on TV Tuesday. They will rise to the
> > occasion -
> > > if their leaders in Washington ask them to do so.
> > >
> > > It's a time for sacrifices. That means even the elk in Alaska may need
> to
> > > lose a few acres of real estate for the greater good - saving the
lives
> of
> > > Americans.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Daniel Goncharoff <thegonch@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> > >
> > >
> > > > In the interest of helping people to know their enemy better, I want
> to
> > > > express my opinion based on research over the last year that the
main
> > > > 'provocation' the US has committed against Islam is its continued
> > > > presence in Saudi Arabia, which is seen as hallowed ground by
Muslims.
> > > >
> > > > I take this from translations of speeches by Osama Bin Laden, which
> are
> > > > much more available from European sources, eg the UK press, then
they
> > > > are from US sources.
> > > >
> > > > Many Americans are perhaps deceived by the focus in the US press on
> > > > other Arab nations that are extremely vocal in their opposition to
> > > > Israel and, accordingly, to its strong ally the US. Most of these
> > > > governments are, in fact, supportive of the US due to our protection
> of
> > > > Kuwait against Iraq, but they are not democracies, and therefore
also
> > > > allow anti-American feelings among their (mostly down-trodden)
people
> to
> > > > continue bubbling up, diverting attention from their own regimes.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > DanG
> > > >
> > > >
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