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Re[2]: The Usual Suspects - Violence is the litmus test for the first amendment



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Actually, it isn't that difficult to draw a sharp line - not between good 
and bad, but between those who are exercising free speech and those who are 
terrorists.  The line is preparing or executing violent actions.  Those 
groups, like America's Taliban: Falwell, Roberson and the 700 club, which 
confine their activities to odious rhetoric should be protected by the 
first amendment as always.  Those like the various militias, who accumulate 
arms and set up armed camps, should be eliminated by any means necessary.

At 9/14/2001 11:45 AM, you wrote:
>On Friday, September 14, 2001, 11:00:30 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>JJ> In my opinion analogous groups ;exist in US--white supremecists,
>JJ> KKK, SDS, abortion clinic bombers, etc.
>
>Most thoughtful people do not like these groups, but allowing them to
>exist is the price we pay for having a truly free country. We practice
>what we preach.
>
>JJ> 1. route out the unseemly elements in their own countries, by
>JJ> whatever means they choose that works in a reasonable timeframe OR
>JJ> face severe reprisals from the US.
>
>So - do we decide who these 'unseemly elements' are, and then force
>these countries to eliminate them? If carried to the limit, this would
>be little different from what, say, Hitler did.
>
>If we truly want keep freedom, here and in other countries, we might
>want to think about this a bit. A truly free society must allow
>expression of unpopular opinions, but not to the point of randomly
>killing others. As always, though, it is difficult to draw a sharp,
>precise line between good and bad.
>
>ztrader