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My main concern about the solutions to solve this forever: cultural
differences, which make the whole thing much more complex.
Once upon a time, I had the "luck" to spend quite a bit of my time in a
couple of muslim countries, living side-by-side with the locals in the
deserts. These people have different priorities in life than the western
world. For one thing, father/son relationship is one of the highest values
there, almost equaling the importance of Koran. Applying military to "root
out terrorism forever" will probably worsen the situation in the long run as
sons will see their single holy purpose in life in revenge for their
fathers. So *all the sons should be eliminated together with their fathers*
to avoid this. But is this something NATO is prepared to undertake?
However, I agree that trying to solve terrorism through diplomatic means is
about as likely to happen as eliminating computer viruses through diplomatic
means: terrorists and virus programmers receive self-gratification through
their efforts; they become heroes in their communities, and this is one of
their highest goals.
Ivo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerald Marisch [mailto:gm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:26 PM
> To: Jim Bronke; bogeybunky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; MikeSuesserott;
> realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx;
> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; qcharts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: God Bless America
>
>
> Diplomatic efforts hell!
>
> We had eight years of touchy, huggy, plastic banana, good-time,
> rock-and-roll "diplomatic efforts" from "Billy Buffoon" and
> the rest of his
> clowns who were more prepared for Woodstock than for Washington.
>
> And now we have maybe 20,000+ American CIVILIANS slain!
>
> Diplomatic efforts? Here's to your "diplomatic efforts".
>
> UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS.
> WHEN YOU POSITIVELY, ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING
> DESTROYED OVERNIGHT!`
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <bogeybunky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "MikeSuesserott"
> <MikeSuesserott@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <qcharts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:30 AM
> Subject: Re: God Bless America
>
>
> > I am not against striking back. Only, I point out that
> involvement in
> > retribution does not solve the problem. The only way to
> truly solve the
> > problem is through diplomatic efforts. Those need to be
> rethought as well.
> >
> > Jim Bronke
> > Phoenix, AZ
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Daniel" <bogeybunky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>; "MikeSuesserott"
> > <MikeSuesserott@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > <qcharts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:02 AM
> > Subject: RE: God Bless America
> >
> >
> > : Those who wish to strike back with vengeance don't
> > : seem to realize that the death of a thousand terrorists
> can not make up
> > for
> > : the loss of one of our lives.
> > :
> > : Jim
> > :
> > : It is true that the death of a thousand terrorists cannot
> make up for
> the
> > : loss of our lives. However, there will
> > : be a thousand less terrorists to take further lives.
> Diplomacy has its
> > : place. So does force. Force may be the
> > : one thing that will cause the terrorists to consider that
> maybe there is
> a
> > : better way to resolve conflict than
> > : through their terror. We cannot be afraid to face them.
> The current
> > : tragedy is the result of total dependence
> > : on diplomacy and our failure to realize that when we are
> compelled to
> use
> > : force it must be for total and complete victory.
> > : The US does not use force recklessly, but there is a time
> and place for
> > it.
> > : This is one of those times. The place is wherever
> terrorism resides.
> > :
> > : Bill Daniel
> > :
> > :
> > :
> > :
> > : -----Original Message-----
> > : From: Jim Bronke [mailto:jvbronke@xxxxxxxx]
> > : Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:02 AM
> > : To: MikeSuesserott; realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx;
> > : metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; qcharts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > : Subject: Re: God Bless America
> > :
> > :
> > : Mike,
> > :
> > : Thank you very much for your thoughts. This list has a
> way of bonding
> > : people from around the world in more ways than just
> technically. Most
> > : Americans have ties to other countries. My great
> grandfather was from
> > : Germany. He came over abt. 1886. his name was Frederick
> Brunk. Although
> > this
> > : is just a very small part of my lineage it is a tie that
> binds. This is
> a
> > : sad time for us and reflects that we can't intercede in
> world affairs
> > : without paying a price. Those who wish to strike back
> with vengeance
> don't
> > : seem to realize that the death of a thousand terrorists
> can not make up
> > for
> > : the loss of one of our lives. I have been glued to my TV,
> watching the
> > news
> > : reports, our brave firemen and policemen, we can't forget them.
> > : If we view the answer to this crisis is revenge than we
> have become one
> of
> > : them and we have become part of the problem. It is only
> through wise
> > : diplomacy that we can solve this problem. I'm afraid that
> what I have
> seen
> > : for the last 30 years has been anything but that.
> > : We have created fertile ground for the hatred of America
> by picking
> allies
> > : and over injecting ourselves in other parts of the world.
> For that we
> pay.
> > : We will survive, though.
> > :
> > : Just a little over a year ago I was in N.Y. City in June
> 2000 attending
> > the
> > : OmegaWorld convention there. Dancing, being a hobby of
> mine got me out
> > each
> > : night. One of my fondest memories was attending a swing
> night at Window
> of
> > : the World Restaurant and Bar at the top of the World Trade Center
> > building.
> > : It was incredible. Now it is just a memory, a very fond
> one. At one
> point
> > I
> > : walked over to the window with a gal I had befriended.
> The distance down
> > is
> > : so incredible she couldn't even walk over. She crawled as
> we got close
> and
> > : peeked down. LOL. There is a spirit and a life to many
> parts of our
> > country
> > : and I was happy to make NYC a part of my life for that
> week. Our country
> > : will survive, we will need to make changes, however.
> > :
> > : Thanks to all the O'Listers around the world for your thoughts and
> prayers
> > : during this time.
> > :
> > : Jim Bronke
> > : Phoenix, AZ
> > :
> > :
> > :
> > : ----- Original Message -----
> > : From: "MikeSuesserott" <MikeSuesserott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > : To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>;
> > : <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <qcharts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > : Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:01 PM
> > : Subject: God Bless America
> > :
> > :
> > : : Like so many of you, I feel deeply for the terrible
> tragedy that has
> > : : occurred. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their
> > families,
> > : : and with the American people.
> > : :
> > : : Germany is in shock. All public building are flagged at
> half-mast. In
> > : : uninterrupted streams for the past 30 or so hours,
> people have been
> > : placing
> > : : flowers in front of the American embassy in Berlin, and
> the American
> > : : consulates in other cities. During working hours, you
> could see many
> > : school
> > : : children who came individually or with their teacher,
> trying to place
> > : their
> > : : flowers as close to the embassy gates as possible;
> during lunch break
> > and
> > : : after the offices close, the other age groups come.
> Many are sobbing,
> or
> > : : have tears in their eyes. Now, at night, you see
> numerous windows that
> > : have
> > : : candles placed in them. Memorial services are being
> held all over the
> > : : country for the victims. This morning a memorial
> service was held in a
> > : large
> > : : cathedral in Berlin, with the Chancellor and other dignitaries
> present.
> > : The
> > : : cathedral was filled to the overflowing, with so many
> people wanting
> to
> > : : attend that a second service had to be scheduled immediately
> thereafter.
> > : :
> > : : The world, and Germany in particular, has much for which to be
> thankful
> > to
> > : : America; now America deserves the loyalty of her
> allies. Her kind,
> > : : large-hearted, and freedom-loving spirit, more than any
> technological
> > : power,
> > : : has made America the leader of the world and a beacon
> of light and
> hope
> > : for
> > : : the downtrodden nations. I know this great nation will
> prevail over
> the
> > : : present crisis, and come out the stronger for it. God
> bless America!
> > : :
> > : : Michael Suesserott
> > : :
> > :
> >
> >
>
>
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