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In Merry Olde England, the Coroner was a high official of the Crown. If the
sheriff stepped out of line, the Coroner came to arrest him. Does Ye Olde
Omega List have a Coroner?

Allan
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At 07:04 AM 9/6/98 -0400, steinbr@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>At 02:56 AM 9/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>From: Allan Kaminsky <allank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>God in the pits? God is my clearinghouse?
>>
>>What if the person on the other side of your trade is more pious than you?
>>What if his (God forbid, her) God has more powerful juju than yours?
>
>Obviously this person will have trouble trading.  He is too worried about
>someone else's God.
>
>BTW, pantheism doesnot work.  There can be only one God.
>
>Charles Kaucher
>
>You don't practice watching your opponent.
>     You practice hitting your shots.
>                  -- Stuart Appleby
>                           Winner of the 1997 Honda Golf Classic
>
>
>
>>Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 05:39:13 EDT
>>From: Orphelin@xxxxxxx
>>Dans un courrier daté du 05/09/98 23:03:31  ,  sheriff Chuck écrit :
>>
>><< 
>> If any of you wonder what is the oldest recorded instance of a commodity
>> trader you ought to check out Genesis 41.   The accumulation and
>> distribution function of the market place has worked well for centuries.  
>> 
>>
http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?language=English&version=NIV&search
>> =&passage=Genesis+41
>> >>
>>Humm...and what's about slippage at this time ?
>Slippage!  What about storage costs!
>
>>It's always difficult, not to say impossible to discuss with a believer in
>>anything, religion being the widest case spread over Earth.
>>This does not hurt me, as I believe in nothing, with the exception of what
>can
>>be proved and tested by other people under the same conditions ( this is the
>>basis of the scientific method, but it's not a belief once proven).
>>Rethorist will say that I believe in science... Not exactly.
>
>Pierre, you say you believe in nothing and yet go on to describe you belief
>system.
>
>
>
>
>>Religion is not disturbing unless it turns into proselytism.
>>This fact is often obseved, because the believer has in essence a non
>>scientific behaviour when speaking of his religion.
>>
>>Can you find any proof of any validity of any religion, excepted those
>>provided by the believers ?
>>No. Sacred text were written and transmitted by believers.
>>Can you have a real proof that God exists beside what's above  ? No again.
>
>Here is  a rational proof.
>
>If God doesnot exist
>	then God doesnot exist.
>Then if God doesn't exist 
>	then it is God who doesnot exist.
>Therefore, God exists.
>
>So much for rationalism.  
>The proof or evidence of religion is when you have faith.  If you do not
>have faith why do expect evidence?  For a trader to have a successful
>system and not follow it is a perfect example who doesnot have faith in the
>system to trade it and therefor, not the evidence in the form of an equity
>curve.
>
>
>>Can you expect to reproduce any miracle now ? No more.
>I can't wait to hear what you think a miracle is;  you admitting that Omega
>Research doesn't have control over software development?
>
>>Can you expect to see the truth these days where modern technology (video,
>>photography, movies..)could be able to defeat any kind of fairy tale ? No
>>more. Unfortunately, the origin of modern religion is too far in the past to
>>leave a substantial proof of their foundations.
>
>Yet the scientific community struggles with this very problem. How did the
>universe start and where is it going.  If you want to talk about fairy
>tales let's talk science.  Theories change faster than people selling
>trading systems.
>
>
>>Can you admit that if God was existing, why appear 2000 years from now (y2k
>>again!) for chistians, less for muslims, more for buddhist, not to speak of
>>stoneages religions that we do not even  know.
>>But nothing these days. Strange, is it not ? It could be so easy to speak on
>>CNN.
>The Clinton News Network has never been authoritative in US.  I merely
>takes polls and reports on those polls and presents it as investigative
>reporting.
>
>>Have you asked to yourself why million of people have the same beliefs than
>>yours regarding God's existence, characteristics, sacred law and books and
>>that million of others have not the same, that all are claiming that they
>know
>>the truth and that it's impossible that so many people could be wrong at the
>>same time on the same thread ?
>
>There has to be someone to take the other side of the trade?
>
>
>>What is annoying with believers it that they try to convert you to their
>>beliefs.
>>They are alway right because they believe, so if you do not, you are wrong
>for
>>them
>
> I couldn't agree with you more.  That is why people get so mad at you on
>this list.  You always think you are right.
>
>.
>>They are able to build logical discurse  (like the one I'm responding to),
>but
>>a closer examination shows that it seems to be logical  only at a first
>>glance.
>>The techniques are well known and as old as the world is.
>>They are able to interpret anything and turn irn it to their belief as an
>>explanation.
>>Centuries ago, the earth was the center of the universe for the religious
>>people. And flat.
>
>Yes, and Tradestation is a finely tuned trading platform...  Another
>scientifically held position.
>
>>None here will say the same now.
>>At this time, all were ignorant, so the false belief was better than
nothing.
>>But it was nothing else than a false information.
>>As soon as knowledge make progress, religions adapt (with delay) to survive,
>>and forget their old beliefs.
>>But they are so numerous that the task is impossible to do, and I have other
>>things to focus on.
>
>It is obvious your religious education has been stinted by your French
>upbringing.
>
>
>>In a nutshell, "to believe" is incompatible with "to doubt", and also with
>>"to prove".
>
>Pierre, you should stop trying to be God.  Does obedience really scare that
>much?
>
>>I'm a system trader and I believe in nothing, and never in  a trading
system.
>>I do not need to believe to trade (or exactly to let trade the system)
>>I need proofs that it works. Not that it could work.
>>Only that it will work.
>>This is plain, this is simple and this is also difficult.
>
>Then, if you don't believe the system will work, why do you trade it?
>Let me guess....your not a trader!
>
>
>Charles Kaucher
>
>Psalm 19
>          1The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the
>work of his hands. 
>          2Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they
>display knowledge. 
>          3There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard....
>
>http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?language=English&version=NIV&passag
>e=Psalms+19&search=&showxref=yep&showfn=yep