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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Richard Estes, Richard Owen, and 
Gary:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you all for the information. And I have now 
firmly learned to check SI before I yell for help. Thanks for taking the time to 
educate me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim DeWilder</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Richard Estes &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:rtestes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>rtestes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Tuesday, September 15, 1998 7:07 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Quotes Plus 
    Download Problems<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>technical problems: about 11 
    EST.&nbsp; Don't know details. Gary announced on SI- QP topic</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Richard Estes</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
        Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Jim DeWilder &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:jdewilder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jdewilder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
        </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
        </B>Tuesday, September 15, 1998 7:10 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Quotes Plus 
        Download Problems<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
        <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Has anyone had problems 
        downloading from Quotes Plus tonight?&nbsp; It is 5:00 PM PDST and I am 
        repeatedly not successful.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:55:23 -0400
From: David Duggan <mmaker@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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John - while I amuse myself with unravelling past formulas can you expand on the
DDTI you mentioned and the ma period you use.  I am not familiar with ddti or
maybe I haven't gone thru all the latest ms formulas available.

David Duggan

David Duggan wrote:

> These are good questions John.
>
> I developed the majority of the formulas sometime ago and then added to them
> over time - so its possible there is some duplication (re:the 40 week m.a.).
>
> Anyways I just wanted you to know I received your email and I will work on a
> response but it may take me a little time as my daughter gets most of time
> during her waking hours which lately seem to run till 10:00pm.  (A little late
> for a 2 yr. old)
>
> That last one on the price oscillator will take some time to think thru again.
>
> The parameters on the std indicators represent in in my opinion when the
> underlying equity is moving from weak or neutral into strong territory (i.e.
> starting to show strength).
>
> David Duggan
>
> John Hunter wrote:
>
> > David,
> > Thank you for contribution. I am sorry to have not got back to you sooner
> > but with two Aussies working their way to the final of the US Open and the
> > Australian team picking up more gold at the Commonwealth Games than is held
> > by our Reserve Bank it has been too easy to get distracted. Roll on Sydney
> > and 2000.
> > When we get something like your posting I like to pull it apart and try to
> > understand what each part is meant to do. One first question I have is what
> > is the significance of the 40 day moving average as you use it three times
> > in the system, in fact you use (Mov(C,40,S),>,Ref(Mov(C,40,S),-1) in the
> > formula as well as a filter in the Explorer (and a third time if you count
> > its use in colB)?
> > >>From what I can see the things you are trying to measure can be grouped as
> > follows:
> >
> > 1. You test for when a number of standard indicators are above some value,
> > eg
> > * If(RSI(14),>,55,1,0) and
> > * If(C,>,SAR(0.02,0.20),1,0) and
> > * If(MFI(14),>=,65,1,0) and so on.
> >
> > 2. You test for when a variable is greater today than when it was yesterday,
> > eg
> > * If(TRIX(12),>,Ref(TRIX(12),-1),1,0) and
> > * If(Mov(EMV(14,S),3,S),>,Ref(Mov(EMV(14,S),3,S),-1),1,0) and
> > * If(Mov(C,40,S),>,Ref(Mov(C,40,S),-1),1,0) and so on.
> >
> > 3. Things being greater than their moving average, eg
> > * If(MACD(),>,Mov(MACD(),9,E),1,0) and
> > * If(OscP(10,20,E,$),>,Mov(OscP(10,20,E,$),10,S),1,0) and so on.
> >
> > 4. Some "mix up" type measures, like:
> > * If(((H+L+C)/3),>,(Mov(C,20,S)+(2*Std(C,20))),1,0) and
> > * If(Mov(C,40,E)-Mov(O,40,E),>,0,1,0) or even
> > *
> > If(Mov(C,10,S),>=,Ref(Mov(C,10,S),-1),If(Mov(C,20,S),>=,Ref(Mov(C,20,S),-1),
> > If(Mov(C,10,S),>=,Mov(C,20,S),1,0),0),0) (which is, by the way a great set
> > of nested "ifs", but I am still working on the logic involved here requiring
> > all three conditions to be true to get a single point. Sure it reduces the
> > weighting you assign to moving averages of the price but seeing that it
> > clearly defines an uptrend why not give it a higher weighing?).
> >
> > 5. Mysteries, like:
> > *
> > If(Abs(Sub(OscP(10,20,E,$),Mov(OscP(10,20,E,$),10,S))),>=,Ref(Abs(Sub(OscP(1
> > 0,20,E,$),Mov(OscP(10,20,E,$),10,S))),-1),1,0) and
> > * If(Mov(C-OscP(1,31,E,$),2,E),>,Ref(Mov(C-OscP(1,31,E,$),2,E),-1),1,0).
> > Simple on the face of it requiring a value today to be greater than it was
> > yesterday but what is the thing that produces the value doing? Both of these
> > are complete mysteries to me. What can you tell us about them, particularly
> > the first. I will start on these by turning them into functions and plotting
> > them against the price chart just to get an idea of what they are meant to
> > show.
> >
> > A final note is that I generally trade futures so your suggested explorer is
> > of no use to me but I have worked on a simple system that uses the DDTI and
> > a moving average of it to generate buy and sell signals on the long side
> > only of the All Ords Index (our DJIA) with some success ($10,000 to $90,000
> > in three years so it has enough start there to maintain interest).
> >
> > Will keep you informed of progress offline as time permits.
> >
> > JH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Duggan <mmaker@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Friday, 11 September 1998 2:53
> > Subject: Re: "Trade The Trend" - Freebie - DD Trend Formula
> >
> > >Here is a freebie:
> > >
> > >I will call it the DD Trend Formula for now (MS 6.0 is a minimum reqm't).
> > Its
> > >a trend following formula that will avoid many (maybe not all) whipsaws.
> > (I
> > >really want to test this on thousands of securities to see what happens in
> > the
> > >long run.)
> > ....................snip.............................snip...................
> > ......
> > >Again any and all comments welcome!!!
> > >
> > >David Duggan