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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Jim:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I was unable to download until about 11:30 pm. The new highs, 
new lows, advances, declines for all 3 markets are incorrect.&nbsp; they show 
513.92 for each of these 12 items. I havent checked anything else 
yet.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Lionel</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Jim DeWilder &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:jdewilder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jdewilder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Tuesday, September 15, 1998 8:08 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Quotes Plus 
    Download Problems<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Has anyone had problems 
    downloading from Quotes Plus tonight?&nbsp; It is 5:00 PM PDST and I am 
    repeatedly not successful.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "John Hunter" <jhunter@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: "Trade The Trend" - Freebie - DD Trend Formula
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DDTI is the David Duggan Trend Index. See you are famous already.
I used a simple 9 day MA, just dropped it on the DDTI.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Duggan <mmaker@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, 16 September 1998 1:17
Subject: Re: "Trade The Trend" - Freebie - DD Trend Formula


>John - while I amuse myself with unravelling past formulas can you expand
on the
>DDTI you mentioned and the ma period you use.  I am not familiar with ddti
or
>maybe I haven't gone thru all the latest ms formulas available.
>
>David Duggan
>
>David Duggan wrote:
>
>> These are good questions John.
>>
>> I developed the majority of the formulas sometime ago and then added to
them
>> over time - so its possible there is some duplication (re:the 40 week
m.a.).
>>
>> Anyways I just wanted you to know I received your email and I will work
on a
>> response but it may take me a little time as my daughter gets most of
time
>> during her waking hours which lately seem to run till 10:00pm.  (A little
late
>> for a 2 yr. old)
>>
>> That last one on the price oscillator will take some time to think thru
again.
>>
>> The parameters on the std indicators represent in in my opinion when the
>> underlying equity is moving from weak or neutral into strong territory
(i.e.
>> starting to show strength).
>>
>> David Duggan
>>
>> John Hunter wrote:
>>
>> > David,
>> > Thank you for contribution. I am sorry to have not got back to you
sooner
>> > but with two Aussies working their way to the final of the US Open and
the
>> > Australian team picking up more gold at the Commonwealth Games than is
held
>> > by our Reserve Bank it has been too easy to get distracted. Roll on
Sydney
>> > and 2000.
>> > When we get something like your posting I like to pull it apart and try
to
>> > understand what each part is meant to do. One first question I have is
what
>> > is the significance of the 40 day moving average as you use it three
times
>> > in the system, in fact you use (Mov(C,40,S),>,Ref(Mov(C,40,S),-1) in
the
>> > formula as well as a filter in the Explorer (and a third time if you
count
>> > its use in colB)?
>> > >>From what I can see the things you are trying to measure can be
grouped as
>> > follows:
>> >
>> > 1. You test for when a number of standard indicators are above some
value,
>> > eg
>> > * If(RSI(14),>,55,1,0) and
>> > * If(C,>,SAR(0.02,0.20),1,0) and
>> > * If(MFI(14),>=,65,1,0) and so on.
>> >
>> > 2. You test for when a variable is greater today than when it was
yesterday,
>> > eg
>> > * If(TRIX(12),>,Ref(TRIX(12),-1),1,0) and
>> > * If(Mov(EMV(14,S),3,S),>,Ref(Mov(EMV(14,S),3,S),-1),1,0) and
>> > * If(Mov(C,40,S),>,Ref(Mov(C,40,S),-1),1,0) and so on.
>> >
>> > 3. Things being greater than their moving average, eg
>> > * If(MACD(),>,Mov(MACD(),9,E),1,0) and
>> > * If(OscP(10,20,E,$),>,Mov(OscP(10,20,E,$),10,S),1,0) and so on.
>> >
>> > 4. Some "mix up" type measures, like:
>> > * If(((H+L+C)/3),>,(Mov(C,20,S)+(2*Std(C,20))),1,0) and
>> > * If(Mov(C,40,E)-Mov(O,40,E),>,0,1,0) or even
>> > *
>> >
If(Mov(C,10,S),>=,Ref(Mov(C,10,S),-1),If(Mov(C,20,S),>=,Ref(Mov(C,20,S),-1),
>> > If(Mov(C,10,S),>=,Mov(C,20,S),1,0),0),0) (which is, by the way a great
set
>> > of nested "ifs", but I am still working on the logic involved here
requiring
>> > all three conditions to be true to get a single point. Sure it reduces
the
>> > weighting you assign to moving averages of the price but seeing that it
>> > clearly defines an uptrend why not give it a higher weighing?).
>> >
>> > 5. Mysteries, like:
>> > *
>> >
If(Abs(Sub(OscP(10,20,E,$),Mov(OscP(10,20,E,$),10,S))),>=,Ref(Abs(Sub(OscP(1
>> > 0,20,E,$),Mov(OscP(10,20,E,$),10,S))),-1),1,0) and
>> > *
If(Mov(C-OscP(1,31,E,$),2,E),>,Ref(Mov(C-OscP(1,31,E,$),2,E),-1),1,0).
>> > Simple on the face of it requiring a value today to be greater than it
was
>> > yesterday but what is the thing that produces the value doing? Both of
these
>> > are complete mysteries to me. What can you tell us about them,
particularly
>> > the first. I will start on these by turning them into functions and
plotting
>> > them against the price chart just to get an idea of what they are meant
to
>> > show.
>> >
>> > A final note is that I generally trade futures so your suggested
explorer is
>> > of no use to me but I have worked on a simple system that uses the DDTI
and
>> > a moving average of it to generate buy and sell signals on the long
side
>> > only of the All Ords Index (our DJIA) with some success ($10,000 to
$90,000
>> > in three years so it has enough start there to maintain interest).
>> >
>> > Will keep you informed of progress offline as time permits.
>> >
>> > JH
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Duggan <mmaker@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Date: Friday, 11 September 1998 2:53
>> > Subject: Re: "Trade The Trend" - Freebie - DD Trend Formula
>> >
>> > >Here is a freebie:
>> > >
>> > >I will call it the DD Trend Formula for now (MS 6.0 is a minimum
reqm't).
>> > Its
>> > >a trend following formula that will avoid many (maybe not all)
whipsaws.
>> > (I
>> > >really want to test this on thousands of securities to see what
happens in
>> > the
>> > >long run.)
>> >
....................snip.............................snip...................
>> > ......
>> > >Again any and all comments welcome!!!
>> > >
>> > >David Duggan
>
>
>
>