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Re: [amibroker] Re: Curious what most people use AmiBroker for? What kind of trading or usage?



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Herman a écrit :
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> And it takes a simpleton to see what no one else sees ;-)
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> herman
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> Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:09:58 PM, you wrote:
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>>  A smart engineer can figure out a complicated solution to a problem.   
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>>  It takes a true genius to find a simple elegant solution.  ;-)
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>>  BR,
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>>  Dennis
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>>  On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:57 PM, brian_z111 wrote:
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>> >> - I have a free website that offers a small sampler of my trading  
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>> >> >flavour (it is new site and only a part time hobby)
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>  >>> http://zboard.wordpress.com/ <http://zboard.wordpress.com/>
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>> > BTW the Zboard is where I post as much of my original trading  
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>> > philosophy as I can, time permitting, without giving away the  
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>> > material that is of core value to me ..... it is supplemented by  
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>> > bits and pieces (resource links etc).
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>> > Don't be fooled into thinking I am a simpleton just because my  
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>> > approach is simplistic...... I could be but the proof requires  
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>> > further evidence!
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>> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 
> "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx> wrote:
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>> >> For me AB is an environment (software, forum, developer,  
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>> >> associates)..... since trading today is synonomous with computer  
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>> >> trading the combination keeps me in touch with, and gives me  
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>> >> insight into, trading and the trading community.
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>> >> IMO, while all of the best traders in the world aren't necessarily  
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>> >> in the forum, AB owners are a cross section of the cream of the  
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>> >> trading crop ..... however, based on the number of users == approx  
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>> >> 9000 (Tomasz has confirmed that forum members approximtes the no.  
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>> >> of users) the majority of them are silent (there is rumoured to be  
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>> >> a large contingent of fund managers/institutional traders but  
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>> >> Tomasz hasn't confirmed that in the forum to my knowledge).... so  
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>> >> by inference I consider 'I have a line' to stay in touch with what  
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>> >> is going on in the world of trading.
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>> >> By it's nature AB attracts algorithmic traders and people with an  
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>> >> IT background or interest.
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>> >> Judging by the discussions, between those AB'ers who do talk,  
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>> >> mechanical system trading is a common interest .... almost a 'rite  
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>> >> of passage' in fact ....even 'discretionary traders' are measured  
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>> >> by their rejection of, or juxtaposition to MST.
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>> >> I think you can also draw a line through the AB trading community  
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>> >> by referencing the three main areas of specialization, and the AB  
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>> >> mentors associated with them:
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>> >> Howard Bandy - Quantitative Analysis ... walk forward backtesting.
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>> >> Herman van den Bergen - autotrading.
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>> >> Fred Tonetti - Intelligent Optimization.
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>> >> The following site is substantially built on Herman's, and his  
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>> >> partner Al Venosa's, contributions and also includes an intro to  
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>> >> Fred's work (see item 12 in the Contents list ... Fred also has  
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>> >> downloadable files in the file section of this board).
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>  >>> http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/ <http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/>
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>> >> Howard has his own site:
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>  >>> http://www.quantitativetradingsystems.com/book.html 
> <http://www.quantitativetradingsystems.com/book.html>
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>> >> My approach isn't that relevant to many since it is based on my  
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>> >> temperament, skill set, objectives, capital and where I live etc:
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>> >> - I am a small capital freelance trader (semi-retired at 52 but not  
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>> >> on trading money).
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>> >> - I have used AB primarily to develop my trading philosophies and  
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>> >> strategies.
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>> >> - I have my own unique style.
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>> >> - I am not an algorithmic trader.
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>> >> - I use a set of mental rules so I am not a discretionary trader  
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>> >> but I would look like one to any trader looking over my shoulder  
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>> >> when I trade.
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>> >> - I have stock selection criteria .. for some strategies I scan EOD  
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>> >> data afterhours to chose a stock or watchlist for the next days  
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>> >> intraday trading..... I can just as easily trade an index or a  
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>> >> commodity as a spot price 'index' (don't like futures with expiry  
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>> >> dates etc).
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>> >> - I mainly trade intraday or short term (I believe in high  
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>> >> frequency trading for statistical smoothing of equity).
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>> >> - I can trade without AB, or any indicators on the chart if I want  
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>> >> to, in fact I think it is better not to use any..... this is very  
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>> >> handy because I can trade with any broker who provides an online RT  
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>> >> chart (I don't need to apply indicators in the brokers platform so  
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>> >> I can select my broker for 'business' reasons and not software  
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>> >> needs).
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>> >> - If I do use an 'indicator' they are more of a visual cue than a  
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>> >> true indicator.
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>> >> - I believe in mental training (training the trading mind) and I  
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>> >> like to use AB for that ... consistent hours per week looking at  
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>> >> charts and practising ... especially the stocks that I didn't  
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>> >> follow that day OR other instruments to get some variety into my  
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>> >> training
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>> >> - I prefer to trade stocks, or stock derivatives (Australia or  
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>> >> Europe), but I can trade anything (however I don't need to or want  
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>> >> to trade other instruments/markets) e.g the US is the best market  
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>> >> to trade but I live in Australia and don't want to work after  
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>> >> approx midnight (my time).
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>> >> - I use my own wave 'theory' (if it could be called that) and view  
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>> >> the markets as being almost random.
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>> >> - My overall style is simplistic but what went into is complex in  
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>> >> that it encompasses a lot of subtle ideas developed over a long  
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>> >> period of time and combined into a single method.
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>> >> - I have spent most of my time in AB looking at charts (80%) and  
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>> >> the rest testing strategies.
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>> >> - I seldom run the backtester although I did a lot of BT in  
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>> >> Metastock before moving to AB (I do most of my strategy testing  
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>> >> using indicators and Exporations with occassional use of Excel for  
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>> >> record keeping and charting).
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>> >> - If I use AB live at all it is only to run charts that correspond  
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>> >> to my brokers charts (cross checking or different timeframes etc  
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>> >> for visual cues that I can't get on my brokers Java platform).
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>> >> - I have no interface from AB to my broker at all.
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>> >> - My Aus based broker is the one who most meets my needs (no  
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>> >> foreign bank exposure, no interest charge on same day trades, high  
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>> >> leverage, trade with a palm device if needed, multi-national and  
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>> >> multi-instruments on one platform with the main ones in Aussie  
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>> >> dollars == no forex exposure or management).... can't have all of  
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>> >> that and use AB!
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>> >> - I don't have a need to learn most of the things that I take an  
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>> >> interest in via this forum ... I continue to learn to keep my  
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>> >> options open and keep me flexible and alert.
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>> >> - I don't have much need for further development of systems etc.
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>> >> - AB is my last stockmarket program ... I will retire from here.
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>> >> - I am interested in the R project because I like open source and  
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>> >> it has a very good basis to develop trading applications on ... I  
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>> >> might do some hobby development over there in the future.... AB has  
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>> >> an R plugin too (donated by Patrick).
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>> >> - IMO looking for successful trading systems or strategies is like  
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>> >> looking for a needle in a haystack .... I can count the strategies  
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>> >> that work, that I know of, on one hand.
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>> >> - I am out of step with the trading status quo .... most of it is  
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>> >> smoke and mirrors and very seductive at that.
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>> >> - I have a free website that offers a small sampler of my trading  
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>> >> flavour (it is new site and only a part time hobby)
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>  >>> http://zboard.wordpress.com/ <http://zboard.wordpress.com/>
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>> >> Thought for the day:
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>> >> "In Japan all English research is translated into Japanese.
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>> >> In the US only 5% of Japanese research is translated into English."
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>> >> Sang Wang.
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>> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 
> "Conrad Joach" <consolejoker@>  
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>> >> wrote:
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>> >>> Do most AB users actually trade with AB or is it used mostly for  
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>> >>> research? And do most users focus on equities or are there a fair  
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>> >>> number of FX, futures and commodities traders who use AB?
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>> >>> Are people using AB in concert with some other platform or  
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>> >>> application or do most AB users rely on AB solely for their  
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>> >>> research and trading needs?
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>> >>> Are most users individual/active traders or are there any  
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>> >>> institutional firms that are using it in their research or trading  
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>> >>> pipeline?
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>> >>> It would be interesting to get a feel for what the userland is  
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>> >>> like for AB. It seems like a very diverse and wide audience from  
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>> >>> some of the posts on this forum.
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