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Re[2]: [amibroker] Re: Curious what most people use AmiBroker for? What kind of trading or usage?


  • To: Dennis Brown <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re[2]: [amibroker] Re: Curious what most people use AmiBroker for? What kind of trading or usage?
  • From: Herman <psytek@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:56:45 -0400

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Title: Re[2]: [amibroker] Re: Curious what most people use AmiBroker for? What kind of trading or usage?

And it takes a simpleton to see what no one else sees ;-)


herman



Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:09:58 PM, you wrote:


> A smart engineer can figure out a complicated solution to a problem.   

> It takes a true genius to find a simple elegant solution.  ;-)


> BR,

> Dennis


> On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:57 PM, brian_z111 wrote:


>>> - I have a free website that offers a small sampler of my trading  

>>> >flavour (it is new site and only a part time hobby)


>>> http://zboard.wordpress.com/


>> BTW the Zboard is where I post as much of my original trading  

>> philosophy as I can, time permitting, without giving away the  

>> material that is of core value to me ..... it is supplemented by  

>> bits and pieces (resource links etc).


>> Don't be fooled into thinking I am a simpleton just because my  

>> approach is simplistic...... I could be but the proof requires  

>> further evidence!



>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx> wrote:


>>> For me AB is an environment (software, forum, developer,  

>>> associates)..... since trading today is synonomous with computer  

>>> trading the combination keeps me in touch with, and gives me  

>>> insight into, trading and the trading community.


>>> IMO, while all of the best traders in the world aren't necessarily  

>>> in the forum, AB owners are a cross section of the cream of the  

>>> trading crop ..... however, based on the number of users == approx  

>>> 9000 (Tomasz has confirmed that forum members approximtes the no.  

>>> of users) the majority of them are silent (there is rumoured to be  

>>> a large contingent of fund managers/institutional traders but  

>>> Tomasz hasn't confirmed that in the forum to my knowledge).... so  

>>> by inference I consider 'I have a line' to stay in touch with what  

>>> is going on in the world of trading.



>>> By it's nature AB attracts algorithmic traders and people with an  

>>> IT background or interest.


>>> Judging by the discussions, between those AB'ers who do talk,  

>>> mechanical system trading is a common interest .... almost a 'rite  

>>> of passage' in fact ....even 'discretionary traders' are measured  

>>> by their rejection of, or juxtaposition to MST.


>>> I think you can also draw a line through the AB trading community  

>>> by referencing the three main areas of specialization, and the AB  

>>> mentors associated with them:


>>> Howard Bandy - Quantitative Analysis ... walk forward backtesting.

>>> Herman van den Bergen - autotrading.

>>> Fred Tonetti - Intelligent Optimization.


>>> The following site is substantially built on Herman's, and his  

>>> partner Al Venosa's, contributions and also includes an intro to  

>>> Fred's work (see item 12 in the Contents list ... Fred also has  

>>> downloadable files in the file section of this board).


>>> http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/



>>> Howard has his own site:


>>> http://www.quantitativetradingsystems.com/book.html



>>> My approach isn't that relevant to many since it is based on my  

>>> temperament, skill set, objectives, capital and where I live etc:


>>> - I am a small capital freelance trader (semi-retired at 52 but not  

>>> on trading money).


>>> - I have used AB primarily to develop my trading philosophies and  

>>> strategies.


>>> - I have my own unique style.


>>> - I am not an algorithmic trader.


>>> - I use a set of mental rules so I am not a discretionary trader  

>>> but I would look like one to any trader looking over my shoulder  

>>> when I trade.


>>> - I have stock selection criteria .. for some strategies I scan EOD  

>>> data afterhours to chose a stock or watchlist for the next days  

>>> intraday trading..... I can just as easily trade an index or a  

>>> commodity as a spot price 'index' (don't like futures with expiry  

>>> dates etc).


>>> - I mainly trade intraday or short term (I believe in high  

>>> frequency trading for statistical smoothing of equity).


>>> - I can trade without AB, or any indicators on the chart if I want  

>>> to, in fact I think it is better not to use any..... this is very  

>>> handy because I can trade with any broker who provides an online RT  

>>> chart (I don't need to apply indicators in the brokers platform so  

>>> I can select my broker for 'business' reasons and not software  

>>> needs).


>>> - If I do use an 'indicator' they are more of a visual cue than a  

>>> true indicator.


>>> - I believe in mental training (training the trading mind) and I  

>>> like to use AB for that ... consistent hours per week looking at  

>>> charts and practising ... especially the stocks that I didn't  

>>> follow that day OR other instruments to get some variety into my  

>>> training


>>> - I prefer to trade stocks, or stock derivatives (Australia or  

>>> Europe), but I can trade anything (however I don't need to or want  

>>> to trade other instruments/markets) e.g the US is the best market  

>>> to trade but I live in Australia and don't want to work after  

>>> approx midnight (my time).


>>> - I use my own wave 'theory' (if it could be called that) and view  

>>> the markets as being almost random.


>>> - My overall style is simplistic but what went into is complex in  

>>> that it encompasses a lot of subtle ideas developed over a long  

>>> period of time and combined into a single method.


>>> - I have spent most of my time in AB looking at charts (80%) and  

>>> the rest testing strategies.


>>> - I seldom run the backtester although I did a lot of BT in  

>>> Metastock before moving to AB (I do most of my strategy testing  

>>> using indicators and Exporations with occassional use of Excel for  

>>> record keeping and charting).


>>> - If I use AB live at all it is only to run charts that correspond  

>>> to my brokers charts (cross checking or different timeframes etc  

>>> for visual cues that I can't get on my brokers Java platform).


>>> - I have no interface from AB to my broker at all.


>>> - My Aus based broker is the one who most meets my needs (no  

>>> foreign bank exposure, no interest charge on same day trades, high  

>>> leverage, trade with a palm device if needed, multi-national and  

>>> multi-instruments on one platform with the main ones in Aussie  

>>> dollars == no forex exposure or management).... can't have all of  

>>> that and use AB!


>>> - I don't have a need to learn most of the things that I take an  

>>> interest in via this forum ... I continue to learn to keep my  

>>> options open and keep me flexible and alert.


>>> - I don't have much need for further development of systems etc.


>>> - AB is my last stockmarket program ... I will retire from here.


>>> - I am interested in the R project because I like open source and  

>>> it has a very good basis to develop trading applications on ... I  

>>> might do some hobby development over there in the future.... AB has  

>>> an R plugin too (donated by Patrick).


>>> - IMO looking for successful trading systems or strategies is like  

>>> looking for a needle in a haystack .... I can count the strategies  

>>> that work, that I know of, on one hand.


>>> - I am out of step with the trading status quo .... most of it is  

>>> smoke and mirrors and very seductive at that.



>>> - I have a free website that offers a small sampler of my trading  

>>> flavour (it is new site and only a part time hobby)


>>> http://zboard.wordpress.com/


>>> Thought for the day:



>>> "In Japan all English research is translated into Japanese.

>>> In the US only 5% of Japanese research is translated into English."


>>> Sang Wang.



>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Conrad Joach" <consolejoker@>  

>>> wrote:


>>>> Do most AB users actually trade with AB or is it used mostly for  

>>>> research? And do most users focus on equities or are there a fair  

>>>> number of FX, futures and commodities traders who use AB?


>>>> Are people using AB in concert with some other platform or  

>>>> application or do most AB users rely on AB solely for their  

>>>> research and trading needs?


>>>> Are most users individual/active traders or are there any  

>>>> institutional firms that are using it in their research or trading  

>>>> pipeline?


>>>> It would be interesting to get a feel for what the userland is  

>>>> like for AB. It seems like a very diverse and wide audience from  

>>>> some of the posts on this forum.







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