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Re: [amibroker] Re: Curious what most people use AmiBroker for? What kind of trading or usage?


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  • Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Curious what most people use AmiBroker for? What kind of trading or usage?
  • From: Dennis Brown <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 23:09:58 -0400

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On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:57 PM, brian_z111 wrote:

>> - I have a free website that offers a small sampler of my trading  
>> >flavour (it is new site and only a part time hobby)
>
>> http://zboard.wordpress.com/
>
> BTW the Zboard is where I post as much of my original trading  
> philosophy as I can, time permitting, without giving away the  
> material that is of core value to me ..... it is supplemented by  
> bits and pieces (resource links etc).
>
> Don't be fooled into thinking I am a simpleton just because my  
> approach is simplistic...... I could be but the proof requires  
> further evidence!
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx> wrote:
>>
>> For me AB is an environment (software, forum, developer,  
>> associates)..... since trading today is synonomous with computer  
>> trading the combination keeps me in touch with, and gives me  
>> insight into, trading and the trading community.
>>
>> IMO, while all of the best traders in the world aren't necessarily  
>> in the forum, AB owners are a cross section of the cream of the  
>> trading crop ..... however, based on the number of users == approx  
>> 9000 (Tomasz has confirmed that forum members approximtes the no.  
>> of users) the majority of them are silent (there is rumoured to be  
>> a large contingent of fund managers/institutional traders but  
>> Tomasz hasn't confirmed that in the forum to my knowledge).... so  
>> by inference I consider 'I have a line' to stay in touch with what  
>> is going on in the world of trading.
>>
>>
>> By it's nature AB attracts algorithmic traders and people with an  
>> IT background or interest.
>>
>> Judging by the discussions, between those AB'ers who do talk,  
>> mechanical system trading is a common interest .... almost a 'rite  
>> of passage' in fact ....even 'discretionary traders' are measured  
>> by their rejection of, or juxtaposition to MST.
>>
>> I think you can also draw a line through the AB trading community  
>> by referencing the three main areas of specialization, and the AB  
>> mentors associated with them:
>>
>> Howard Bandy - Quantitative Analysis ... walk forward backtesting.
>> Herman van den Bergen - autotrading.
>> Fred Tonetti - Intelligent Optimization.
>>
>> The following site is substantially built on Herman's, and his  
>> partner Al Venosa's, contributions and also includes an intro to  
>> Fred's work (see item 12 in the Contents list ... Fred also has  
>> downloadable files in the file section of this board).
>>
>> http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
>>
>>
>> Howard has his own site:
>>
>> http://www.quantitativetradingsystems.com/book.html
>>
>>
>> My approach isn't that relevant to many since it is based on my  
>> temperament, skill set, objectives, capital and where I live etc:
>>
>> - I am a small capital freelance trader (semi-retired at 52 but not  
>> on trading money).
>>
>> - I have used AB primarily to develop my trading philosophies and  
>> strategies.
>>
>> - I have my own unique style.
>>
>> - I am not an algorithmic trader.
>>
>> - I use a set of mental rules so I am not a discretionary trader  
>> but I would look like one to any trader looking over my shoulder  
>> when I trade.
>>
>> - I have stock selection criteria .. for some strategies I scan EOD  
>> data afterhours to chose a stock or watchlist for the next days  
>> intraday trading..... I can just as easily trade an index or a  
>> commodity as a spot price 'index' (don't like futures with expiry  
>> dates etc).
>>
>> - I mainly trade intraday or short term (I believe in high  
>> frequency trading for statistical smoothing of equity).
>>
>> - I can trade without AB, or any indicators on the chart if I want  
>> to, in fact I think it is better not to use any..... this is very  
>> handy because I can trade with any broker who provides an online RT  
>> chart (I don't need to apply indicators in the brokers platform so  
>> I can select my broker for 'business' reasons and not software  
>> needs).
>>
>> - If I do use an 'indicator' they are more of a visual cue than a  
>> true indicator.
>>
>> - I believe in mental training (training the trading mind) and I  
>> like to use AB for that ... consistent hours per week looking at  
>> charts and practising ... especially the stocks that I didn't  
>> follow that day OR other instruments to get some variety into my  
>> training
>>
>> - I prefer to trade stocks, or stock derivatives (Australia or  
>> Europe), but I can trade anything (however I don't need to or want  
>> to trade other instruments/markets) e.g the US is the best market  
>> to trade but I live in Australia and don't want to work after  
>> approx midnight (my time).
>>
>> - I use my own wave 'theory' (if it could be called that) and view  
>> the markets as being almost random.
>>
>> - My overall style is simplistic but what went into is complex in  
>> that it encompasses a lot of subtle ideas developed over a long  
>> period of time and combined into a single method.
>>
>> - I have spent most of my time in AB looking at charts (80%) and  
>> the rest testing strategies.
>>
>> - I seldom run the backtester although I did a lot of BT in  
>> Metastock before moving to AB (I do most of my strategy testing  
>> using indicators and Exporations with occassional use of Excel for  
>> record keeping and charting).
>>
>> - If I use AB live at all it is only to run charts that correspond  
>> to my brokers charts (cross checking or different timeframes etc  
>> for visual cues that I can't get on my brokers Java platform).
>>
>> - I have no interface from AB to my broker at all.
>>
>> - My Aus based broker is the one who most meets my needs (no  
>> foreign bank exposure, no interest charge on same day trades, high  
>> leverage, trade with a palm device if needed, multi-national and  
>> multi-instruments on one platform with the main ones in Aussie  
>> dollars == no forex exposure or management).... can't have all of  
>> that and use AB!
>>
>> - I don't have a need to learn most of the things that I take an  
>> interest in via this forum ... I continue to learn to keep my  
>> options open and keep me flexible and alert.
>>
>> - I don't have much need for further development of systems etc.
>>
>> - AB is my last stockmarket program ... I will retire from here.
>>
>> - I am interested in the R project because I like open source and  
>> it has a very good basis to develop trading applications on ... I  
>> might do some hobby development over there in the future.... AB has  
>> an R plugin too (donated by Patrick).
>>
>> - IMO looking for successful trading systems or strategies is like  
>> looking for a needle in a haystack .... I can count the strategies  
>> that work, that I know of, on one hand.
>>
>> - I am out of step with the trading status quo .... most of it is  
>> smoke and mirrors and very seductive at that.
>>
>>
>> - I have a free website that offers a small sampler of my trading  
>> flavour (it is new site and only a part time hobby)
>>
>> http://zboard.wordpress.com/
>>
>> Thought for the day:
>>
>>
>> "In Japan all English research is translated into Japanese.
>> In the US only 5% of Japanese research is translated into English."
>>
>> Sang Wang.
>>
>>
>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Conrad Joach" <consolejoker@>  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do most AB users actually trade with AB or is it used mostly for  
>>> research? And do most users focus on equities or are there a fair  
>>> number of FX, futures and commodities traders who use AB?
>>>
>>> Are people using AB in concert with some other platform or  
>>> application or do most AB users rely on AB solely for their  
>>> research and trading needs?
>>>
>>> Are most users individual/active traders or are there any  
>>> institutional firms that are using it in their research or trading  
>>> pipeline?
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to get a feel for what the userland is  
>>> like for AB. It seems like a very diverse and wide audience from  
>>> some of the posts on this forum.
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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