Hello,
Yes, I fully support UKB in current (Wordpress)
shape.
The fact that only few post is connected with the fact
that
posting in UKB is seen as more "formal" than unformal e-mail
communication.
On the other hand this more formal appearance
has positive side - it
increases quality of contributions.
I would always prefer few quality
UKB articles than lots of forum/list noise.
Elitetrader for example is
forum-based. The amount of "noise" there
is enormous.
Best
regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxcom>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com>
Sent:
Friday, August 29, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Forum or
Mailing List - please vote
> Tomasz,
>
> I just read
your post to the other thread answering my concerns about
> your
support for the UKB.
>
> So please ignore the last sentence in
the previous post below.
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis
>
> On Aug 29, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
>
>>
Tomasz,
>>
>> It is fair enough to say that the UKB will
stay as is. I can accept
>> that. The problem is that hardly anyone
is posting to it. So (in
>> factual hindsight) the private
conversations about what it had to have
>> for presentation came to
the wrong tradeoff to make it widely
>> acceptable to many who were
not part of that process. But that can be
>> a different poll if you
want it.
>>
>> Since you say that this poll is just about
Yahoo groups EMAIL vs PHP
>> WEB only access to the list, the details
about a proposed PHP solution
>> are very important. How you
personally feel about being able to
>> maintain it is if primary
importance. If you would not be happy with
>> it, then it is
pointless.
>>
>> So I am not sure if this poll is about a
vote of confidence for
>> leaving things the way they are, or because
you have an alternative
>> you would like to try. Your intentions are
not clear to me. I am
>> very confused since this poll came just
after you were discouraging my
>> efforts to recruit more
participation in the current UKB.
>>
>> Best
regards,
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> On Aug 29,
2008, at 7:46 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>>
>>>
Hello,
>>>
>>> There is no poll for that and there is
no such option.
>>> UKB won't be moved to forum format. UserKB
will stay in current
>>> format (i.e. Wordpress)
>>>
in place where it is now http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
>>>
>>>
Discussion about that topic has no point because I won't change
my
>>> mind in that area.
>>>
>>> BTW: ***
phpBB software does *NOT* have e-mail send/receive of
>>> posts.
***
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
regards,
>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>
amibroker.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
From: "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxxxxxcom>
>>>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com>
>>>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:30 PM
>>> Subject: [amibroker] Re:
Forum or Mailing List - please
vote
>>>
>>>
>>>> I vote to move the
UKB to a new forum provided it has email send and
>>>>
receive.
>>>>
>>>> I will reformat my posts and
do some new ones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
brian_z
>>>>
>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com,
"Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
>>>>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
Progster,
>>>>>
>>>>> I disagree, and not
because of "unexperience" as you
said.
>>>>>
>>>>> You did not hear private
discussions about UKB therefore you have
>>>> no
idea
>>>>> about kind of layout capability expectations
people have. They are
>>>> way over top
>>>>>
any forum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
regards,
>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>>
amibroker.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----
>>>>> From: "progster01"
<progster@xx.>
>>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com>
>>>>>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:01 PM
>>>>> Subject:
[amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please
vote
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
Speaking of phpBB3 as "the
forum":
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com,
"Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@>
>>>>
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
forum is *very* limited when it comes to formatting the
>>>>
article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, I have
to disagree with that
statement!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry to
quibble with you on your own list, TJ, but I think
the
>>>>>> opinion you've expressed above is misleading
to the
>>>>>> uninformed/unexperienced (in phpBB3),
and would be widely
>>>> rejected
by
>>>>>> those who routinely use properly enabled phpBB3
Forums.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PhpBB3 Forum,
IMO, provides generous and easy-to-use formatting
>>>>
with
>>>>>> control of text styles, in-line images,
visual compression of
>>>> large
>>>>>>
images into the page area, and far too many more specifics to
list
>>>>>>
individually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PhpBB3
is not a pixel-by-pixel publishing layout program
(is
>>>>>> WordPress?), but that is irrelevant
(IMO).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is
relevant is that with only a very tiny learning curve
>>>>
phpBB3
>>>>>> will allow anyone willing to make the
slightest effort to produce
>>>>
very
>>>>>> nice messages, with text styling, with blocks
and indents, with
>>>>>> images, with attached files,
with segregated, selectable "code"
>>>>
blocks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If phpBB3 were
to become the AB community forum platform, members
>>>>>>
would be unfettered from the very serious
expressive/presentation
>>>>>> limitations of the
Yahoo email list format. The trade-off is
>>>> that
the
>>>>>> whole ball of wax doesn't appear in your email
inbox
>>>> automatically (if
>>>>>> that's
what you are used to).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
If this change is adopted, I predict UKB in WordPress will
become
>>>> a
>>>>>> lame duck. Virtually
no one will use it, because phpBB3, properly
>>>>>>
configured, is _so much easier to use_, and perfectly
adequate
>>>> for all
>>>>>> but the most
demanding "magazine-like"
presentations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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