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Unfortunatelly that's true (and it happens more frequently than what
we might expect).
Nevertheless, I think it is still usefull...
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
wrote:
>
> If only people are willing to respect categories. Somehow,
AmiQuote questions land here
> despite the fact that in theory they should be sent to dedicated
amiquote list http://www.egroups.com/messages/amiquote
> "Human factor" is what counts.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pmxgs" <pmxgs@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:53 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
>
>
> > I've already voted.
> >
> > My preference goes to forum style, due to the simple fact that
we
> > have the ability to organize Posts into categories, which is not
> > possible here in yahoo.
> > That for me, is the main disadvantage with yahoo groups.
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Yes, I fully support UKB in current (Wordpress) shape.
> >>
> >> The fact that only few post is connected with the fact
> >> that posting in UKB is seen as more "formal" than unformal e-
mail
> >> communication. On the other hand this more formal appearance
> >> has positive side - it increases quality of contributions.
> >>
> >> I would always prefer few quality UKB articles than lots of
> > forum/list noise.
> >> Elitetrader for example is forum-based. The amount of "noise"
there
> >> is enormous.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> amibroker.com
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@>
> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:48 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
> >>
> >>
> >> > Tomasz,
> >> >
> >> > I just read your post to the other thread answering my
concerns
> > about
> >> > your support for the UKB.
> >> >
> >> > So please ignore the last sentence in the previous post below.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Dennis
> >> >
> >> > On Aug 29, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Tomasz,
> >> >>
> >> >> It is fair enough to say that the UKB will stay as is. I
can
> > accept
> >> >> that. The problem is that hardly anyone is posting to it.
So
> > (in
> >> >> factual hindsight) the private conversations about what it
had
> > to have
> >> >> for presentation came to the wrong tradeoff to make it widely
> >> >> acceptable to many who were not part of that process. But
that
> > can be
> >> >> a different poll if you want it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Since you say that this poll is just about Yahoo groups
EMAIL
> > vs PHP
> >> >> WEB only access to the list, the details about a proposed
PHP
> > solution
> >> >> are very important. How you personally feel about being
able to
> >> >> maintain it is if primary importance. If you would not be
> > happy with
> >> >> it, then it is pointless.
> >> >>
> >> >> So I am not sure if this poll is about a vote of confidence
for
> >> >> leaving things the way they are, or because you have an
> > alternative
> >> >> you would like to try. Your intentions are not clear to
me. I
> > am
> >> >> very confused since this poll came just after you were
> > discouraging my
> >> >> efforts to recruit more participation in the current UKB.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >> Dennis
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hello,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> There is no poll for that and there is no such option.
> >> >>> UKB won't be moved to forum format. UserKB will stay in
current
> >> >>> format (i.e. Wordpress)
> >> >>> in place where it is now http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Discussion about that topic has no point because I won't
> > change my
> >> >>> mind in that area.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> BTW: *** phpBB software does *NOT* have e-mail send/receive
of
> >> >>> posts. ***
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best regards,
> >> >>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> >>> amibroker.com
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: "brian_z111" <brian_z111@>
> >> >>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:30 PM
> >> >>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I vote to move the UKB to a new forum provided it has
email
> > send and
> >> >>>> receive.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I will reformat my posts and do some new ones.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> brian_z
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
<groups@>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Progster,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I disagree, and not because of "unexperience" as you said.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> You did not hear private discussions about UKB therefore
you
> > have
> >> >>>> no idea
> >> >>>>> about kind of layout capability expectations people have.
> > They are
> >> >>>> way over top
> >> >>>>> any forum.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Best regards,
> >> >>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> >>>>> amibroker.com
> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>>> From: "progster01" <progster@>
> >> >>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:01 PM
> >> >>>>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please
vote
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Speaking of phpBB3 as "the forum":
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
> > <groups@>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> the forum is *very* limited when it comes to formatting
the
> >> >>>> article.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Wow, I have to disagree with that statement!
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Sorry to quibble with you on your own list, TJ, but I
think
> > the
> >> >>>>>> opinion you've expressed above is misleading to the
> >> >>>>>> uninformed/unexperienced (in phpBB3), and would be widely
> >> >>>> rejected by
> >> >>>>>> those who routinely use properly enabled phpBB3 Forums.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> PhpBB3 Forum, IMO, provides generous and easy-to-use
> > formatting
> >> >>>> with
> >> >>>>>> control of text styles, in-line images, visual
compression
> > of
> >> >>>> large
> >> >>>>>> images into the page area, and far too many more
specifics
> > to list
> >> >>>>>> individually.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> PhpBB3 is not a pixel-by-pixel publishing layout program
(is
> >> >>>>>> WordPress?), but that is irrelevant (IMO).
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> What is relevant is that with only a very tiny learning
> > curve
> >> >>>> phpBB3
> >> >>>>>> will allow anyone willing to make the slightest effort
to
> > produce
> >> >>>> very
> >> >>>>>> nice messages, with text styling, with blocks and
indents,
> > with
> >> >>>>>> images, with attached files, with segregated,
> > selectable "code"
> >> >>>> blocks.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> If phpBB3 were to become the AB community forum
platform,
> > members
> >> >>>>>> would be unfettered from the very serious
> > expressive/presentation
> >> >>>>>> limitations of the Yahoo email list format. The trade-
off
> > is
> >> >>>> that the
> >> >>>>>> whole ball of wax doesn't appear in your email inbox
> >> >>>> automatically (if
> >> >>>>>> that's what you are used to).
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> If this change is adopted, I predict UKB in WordPress
will
> > become
> >> >>>> a
> >> >>>>>> lame duck. Virtually no one will use it, because
phpBB3,
> > properly
> >> >>>>>> configured, is _so much easier to use_, and perfectly
> > adequate
> >> >>>> for all
> >> >>>>>> but the most demanding "magazine-like" presentations.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
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> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
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> >> >>>>
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