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Re: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote



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Hello,

Yes, I fully support UKB in current (Wordpress) shape.

The fact that only few post is connected with the fact
that posting in UKB is seen as more "formal" than unformal e-mail
communication. On the other hand this more formal appearance
has positive side - it increases quality of contributions. 

I would always prefer few quality UKB articles than lots of forum/list noise.
Elitetrader for example is forum-based. The amount of "noise" there
is enormous.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote


> Tomasz,
> 
> I just read your post to the other thread answering my concerns about  
> your support for the UKB.
> 
> So please ignore the last sentence in the previous post below.
> 
> Best regards,
> Dennis
> 
> On Aug 29, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> 
>> Tomasz,
>>
>> It is fair enough to say that the UKB will stay as is.  I can accept
>> that.  The problem is that hardly anyone is posting to it.  So (in
>> factual hindsight) the private conversations about what it had to have
>> for presentation came to the wrong tradeoff to make it widely
>> acceptable to many who were not part of that process.  But that can be
>> a different poll if you want it.
>>
>> Since you say that this poll is just about Yahoo groups EMAIL vs PHP
>> WEB only access to the list, the details about a proposed PHP solution
>> are very important.  How you personally feel about being able to
>> maintain it is if primary importance.  If you would not be happy with
>> it, then it is pointless.
>>
>> So I am not sure if this poll is about a vote of confidence for
>> leaving things the way they are, or because you have an alternative
>> you would like to try.  Your intentions are not clear to me.  I am
>> very confused since this poll came just after you were discouraging my
>> efforts to recruit more participation in the current UKB.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> There is no poll for that and there is no such option.
>>> UKB won't be moved to forum format. UserKB will stay in current
>>> format (i.e. Wordpress)
>>> in place where it is now http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
>>>
>>> Discussion about that topic has no point because I won't change my
>>> mind in that area.
>>>
>>> BTW: *** phpBB software does *NOT* have e-mail send/receive of
>>> posts. ***
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>> amibroker.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:30 PM
>>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
>>>
>>>
>>>> I vote to move the UKB to a new forum provided it has email send and
>>>> receive.
>>>>
>>>> I will reformat my posts and do some new ones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> brian_z
>>>>
>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Progster,
>>>>>
>>>>> I disagree, and not because of "unexperience" as you said.
>>>>>
>>>>> You did not hear private discussions about UKB therefore you have
>>>> no idea
>>>>> about kind of layout capability expectations people have. They are
>>>> way over top
>>>>> any forum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "progster01" <progster@xxx>
>>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:01 PM
>>>>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of phpBB3 as "the forum":
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the forum is *very* limited when it comes to formatting the
>>>> article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, I have to disagree with that statement!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry to quibble with you on your own list, TJ, but I think the
>>>>>> opinion you've expressed above is misleading to the
>>>>>> uninformed/unexperienced (in phpBB3), and would be widely
>>>> rejected by
>>>>>> those who routinely use properly enabled phpBB3 Forums.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PhpBB3 Forum, IMO, provides generous and easy-to-use formatting
>>>> with
>>>>>> control of text styles, in-line images, visual compression of
>>>> large
>>>>>> images into the page area, and far too many more specifics to list
>>>>>> individually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PhpBB3 is not a pixel-by-pixel publishing layout program (is
>>>>>> WordPress?), but that is irrelevant (IMO).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is relevant is that with only a very tiny learning curve
>>>> phpBB3
>>>>>> will allow anyone willing to make the slightest effort to produce
>>>> very
>>>>>> nice messages, with text styling, with blocks and indents, with
>>>>>> images, with attached files, with segregated, selectable "code"
>>>> blocks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If phpBB3 were to become the AB community forum platform, members
>>>>>> would be unfettered from the very serious expressive/presentation
>>>>>> limitations of the Yahoo email list format.  The trade-off is
>>>> that the
>>>>>> whole ball of wax doesn't appear in your email inbox
>>>> automatically (if
>>>>>> that's what you are used to).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this change is adopted, I predict UKB in WordPress will become
>>>> a
>>>>>> lame duck.  Virtually no one will use it, because phpBB3, properly
>>>>>> configured, is _so much easier to use_, and perfectly adequate
>>>> for all
>>>>>> but the most demanding "magazine-like" presentations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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