Ken,
For Your Info:
HtmlHelp that AB uses is a Microsoft Windows-wide standard
that consists of robust full-text engine that has each and
every word indexed already.
Sorry, but there is nothing better than that available to
Windows developers.
The same search is featured in products like Windows
itself, Microsoft Office, MSDN (5+GB of help documents there!) and
others.
Best regards,
Tomasz
Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:00
AM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Forum Re:
'Rule Based' versus 'Discretionary' trading...
While the Users Guide in pdf format will help you find things a
little bit better than the search function in the html help file, it still
suffers greatly from limitations in the search function. I just
tried it on several recent questions and unless you want to experiment
with single search terms and look at all the hits and repeat, this is not
that much better than the html help files.
I
believe a single work topic that would have great payoff
and involving programming and not writing or rewriting help material,
is to install a robust search engine, with all words and phrases
indexed.
Ken
There is no reason to read 900 pages. The
Users Guide is in pdf format so your pdf search function will find just
about anything within a few tries - at least that's my
experience.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008
1:35 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Forum Re:
'Rule Based' versus 'Discretionary' trading...
Here is a good example why it is so hard to search
the group and find
information. I just picked this as an example but
it happens all the
time. Clearly this thread is now not about 'Rule
Based' versus
'Discretionary' trading, it is about helping out
newcomers with AB.
Imagine searching for something and hitting a
thread that has turned in
to something else than what it's subject
title started as.
I've searched and sometimes have no idea why
messages came up in the
search.
I know some here were able to
download AB and start developing systems
the next day, but there are
more that give up on the software because it
is not user friendly in
the beginning. Not all who ask a simple getting
started question want
to read 900 pages of a user manual but some are
told to do that with
the basic answer--"it's in the maual, read it"
AB is great
software, it takes time to learn how to use it-- step
by
step.
Dave
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com,
"reinsley" <reinsley@xxx> wrote:
>
>
+1
>
> It's a major point. How to find something that you
don't know the name
> or don't ever know it exist ! Or if it's a
generic name with thousands
> of entries.
>
> I saw
with Excel user's list that when the simple examples are at a
>
precise place, it is easier to give educational support to
beginners.
>
> The beginner wants to have results at once.
He searches into help
> manual and find a programmer help. That is
useless for non programmer,
> it takes time to use this
help.
>
> With 3 or 4 lines of code a "takeaway" example is
a good tutorial.
>
> Best
Regards
>
>
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com,
"progster01" progster@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com,
Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> >
> > >When I
first started, I did not know what to call things,
> > >so
most of my searches failed.
> >
> > Ha! I can relate
to that!
> >
> > Sometimes people may find it easier
to dash off a quick question to
> > the list than to troll
deeply through the several possible
references
> >
available.
> >
> > I always try to keep in mind that,
in general, if the person knew
> > where to find the answer,
they would go right to it. But, until a
> > more thorough
acclimation takes place, newbies don't know where to
look.
>
>
> > IMO, it's not realistic to expect every poster to have
spent a few
> > months getting deeply familiar with the
reference material. Even
> > those who have spent significant
time with the reference material
may
> > still need a bit of
"extra" or "different" explanation/example
before
> >
the light comes on for any particular topic.
> >
> > A
quick question may deserve a quick answer:
> >
> >
"Try reading this page or topic and see if that helps."
>
>
> > And what is wrong with that? (nothing, IMO)
>
>
> > If a person more experienced with the product and the
docs can
direct
> > someone to where the answer exists, it
only takes a moment, and that
> > moment could substitute for
hours of (fruitless?) searching on the
> > questioner's
part.
> >
> > Clearly some people form an opinion
along the lines of:
> >
> > "Oh come on, that's so
obvious, and it's RIGHT THERE IN THE DOCS"
> >
> >
Well, maybe (and perhaps definitely!). OK, so just don't answer
that
> > poster. Don't let it get to you! Either someone else
will answer
> > (question posed, question answered, no nick on
you!), or the poster
> > will email support or figure it out
themselves eventually.
> >
> > Civility (or refraining
from incivility) helps the list, lack of
> > civility hurts it
(IMO).
> >
> > Posing a simple or "obvious" question
is not "lack of civility"
(IMO).
> >
> > BTW, "It's
in the docs" is not a very helpful answer (to the
> >
questioner or the list).
> >
> > "I think what you are
looking for is in the docs, HERE" is a very
> > helpful answer,
and if more people who are capable of this answer
> > would
step up to it then TJ would not have to!
>
>
>
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