|
While
the Users Guide in pdf format will help you find things a little bit better than
the search function in the html help file, it still suffers greatly from
limitations in the search function. I just tried it on several recent
questions and unless you want to experiment with single search terms and look at
all the hits and repeat, this is not that much better than the html help
files.
I
believe a single work topic that would have great payoff and involving
programming and not writing or rewriting help material, is to install a robust
search engine, with all words and phrases indexed.
Ken
There is no reason to read 900 pages. The Users
Guide is in pdf format so your pdf search function will find just about anything
within a few tries - at least that's my experience.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:35
PM
Subject: [amibroker] Forum Re: 'Rule
Based' versus 'Discretionary' trading...
Here is a good example why it is so hard to search the
group and find
information. I just picked this as an example but it happens
all the
time. Clearly this thread is now not about 'Rule Based'
versus
'Discretionary' trading, it is about helping out newcomers with
AB.
Imagine searching for something and hitting a thread that has
turned in
to something else than what it's subject title started
as.
I've searched and sometimes have no idea why messages came up in
the
search.
I know some here were able to download AB and start
developing systems
the next day, but there are more that give up on the
software because it
is not user friendly in the beginning. Not all who ask
a simple getting
started question want to read 900 pages of a user manual
but some are
told to do that with the basic answer--"it's in the maual,
read it"
AB is great software, it takes time to learn how to use it--
step by
step.
Dave
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"reinsley" <reinsley@xxx> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> It's
a major point. How to find something that you don't know the name
> or
don't ever know it exist ! Or if it's a generic name with thousands
> of
entries.
>
> I saw with Excel user's list that when the simple
examples are at a
> precise place, it is easier to give educational
support to beginners.
>
> The beginner wants to have results at
once. He searches into help
> manual and find a programmer help. That is
useless for non programmer,
> it takes time to use this
help.
>
> With 3 or 4 lines of code a "takeaway" example is a good
tutorial.
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
>
>
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"progster01" progster@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis
Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> >
> > >When I first
started, I did not know what to call things,
> > >so most of my
searches failed.
> >
> > Ha! I can relate to that!
>
>
> > Sometimes people may find it easier to dash off a quick
question to
> > the list than to troll deeply through the several
possible
references
> > available.
> >
> > I
always try to keep in mind that, in general, if the person knew
> >
where to find the answer, they would go right to it. But, until a
> >
more thorough acclimation takes place, newbies don't know where
to
look.
> >
> > IMO, it's not realistic to expect every
poster to have spent a few
> > months getting deeply familiar with
the reference material. Even
> > those who have spent significant
time with the reference material
may
> > still need a bit of
"extra" or "different" explanation/example
before
> > the light
comes on for any particular topic.
> >
> > A quick question
may deserve a quick answer:
> >
> > "Try reading this page
or topic and see if that helps."
> >
> > And what is wrong
with that? (nothing, IMO)
> >
> > If a person more
experienced with the product and the docs can
direct
> > someone
to where the answer exists, it only takes a moment, and that
> >
moment could substitute for hours of (fruitless?) searching on the
>
> questioner's part.
> >
> > Clearly some people form an
opinion along the lines of:
> >
> > "Oh come on, that's so
obvious, and it's RIGHT THERE IN THE DOCS"
> >
> > Well,
maybe (and perhaps definitely!). OK, so just don't answer that
> >
poster. Don't let it get to you! Either someone else will answer
> >
(question posed, question answered, no nick on you!), or the poster
>
> will email support or figure it out themselves eventually.
>
>
> > Civility (or refraining from incivility) helps the list,
lack of
> > civility hurts it (IMO).
> >
> > Posing
a simple or "obvious" question is not "lack of civility"
(IMO).
>
>
> > BTW, "It's in the docs" is not a very helpful answer (to
the
> > questioner or the list).
> >
> > "I think
what you are looking for is in the docs, HERE" is a very
> > helpful
answer, and if more people who are capable of this answer
> > would
step up to it then TJ would not have to!
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Please
note that this group is for discussion between users only.
To get
support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
SUPPORT {at}
amibroker.com
For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check
DEVLOG:
http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
For
other support material please check also:
http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
Yahoo!
Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go
to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/
<*>
Your email settings:
Individual Email |
Traditional
<*> To change settings online go
to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/join
(Yahoo! ID required)
<*> To change settings via
email:
mailto:amibroker-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
mailto:amibroker-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<*>
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
amibroker-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<*>
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
No
virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus
Database: 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 7:39
AM
__._,_.___
Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
For other support material please check also:
http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
![]()
__,_._,___
|