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Yes, Google site specific search is quite handy but note that it has
been posted several times already on this forum.
I have run an informal 'suggestion' thread, on the subject of
searching, in this forum....around a year or more ago AND made a
formal suggestion to AB.
Given that you have been around a while, and hadn't noticed the
previous posts, and that newcomers are bound to ask again... what is
the best solution:
a) do nothing... wait until the question is asked again... hope
someone is around to answer it
b) include it in the help manual
c) Tomasz writes it up for the KB
d) hope that someone will volunteer to add it to the UKB and then
hope they will do a good job and then hope they will maintain their
post into the future
e) Tomasz adds a better search engine to the AB site OR Tomasz adds
an AB site dedicated search button to the webresearch toolbar of AB
f) other solution?
(I already sent Tomasz screenshots showing that the search at the AB
site, for a specific term, returned far less hits, than Google or
Gigablast did for the same search...don't know if anything has
changed since then).
Also... is it official then that Google is the search engine for
AmiBroker?
brian_z
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ken Close <ken45140@xxx> wrote:
>
> Paul:
>
> Good one I had not thought of....quick test showed me some hits I
could not
> get via Help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
>
> _____
>
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of Paul Ho
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:33 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Forum Re: 'Rule Based'
versus 'Discretionary'
> trading...
>
>
> Since the online help is on the amibroker site
> just use google with site:www.amibroker.com to restrict the domain
of the
> search to www.amibroker.com
> e.g
> "range bar site:www.amibroker.com" on google will yield the
following
> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en
> <http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=range+bar+site%
3Awww.amibroker.com&
> meta> &q=range+bar+site%3Awww.amibroker.com&meta=
>
> much better than html search.
>
>
> _____
>
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of Tomasz Janeczko
> Sent: Friday, 29 August 2008 10:23 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Forum Re: 'Rule Based'
versus 'Discretionary'
> trading...
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,
>
> For Your Info:
>
> HtmlHelp that AB uses is a Microsoft Windows-wide standard that
consists of
> robust full-text engine that has each and every word indexed
already.
> Sorry, but there is nothing better than that available to Windows
> developers.
> The same search is featured in products like Windows itself,
Microsoft
> Office, MSDN (5+GB of help documents there!) and others.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ken Close <mailto:ken45140@...>
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ps.com
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Forum Re: 'Rule Based'
versus 'Discretionary'
> trading...
>
> While the Users Guide in pdf format will help you find things a
little bit
> better than the search function in the html help file, it still
suffers
> greatly from limitations in the search function. I just tried it
on several
> recent questions and unless you want to experiment with single
search terms
> and look at all the hits and repeat, this is not that much better
than the
> html help files.
>
> I believe a single work topic that would have great payoff and
involving
> programming and not writing or rewriting help material, is to
install a
> robust search engine, with all words and phrases indexed.
>
> Ken
>
> _____
>
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of wavemechanic
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:14 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Forum Re: 'Rule Based'
versus 'Discretionary'
> trading...
>
>
> There is no reason to read 900 pages. The Users Guide is in pdf
format so
> your pdf search function will find just about anything within a few
tries -
> at least that's my experience.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dave_88_1961 <mailto:dave_88_1961@...>
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ps.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:35 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Forum Re: 'Rule Based' versus 'Discretionary'
> trading...
>
>
> Here is a good example why it is so hard to search the group and
find
> information. I just picked this as an example but it happens all the
> time. Clearly this thread is now not about 'Rule Based' versus
> 'Discretionary' trading, it is about helping out newcomers with AB.
>
> Imagine searching for something and hitting a thread that has
turned in
> to something else than what it's subject title started as.
>
> I've searched and sometimes have no idea why messages came up in the
> search.
>
> I know some here were able to download AB and start developing
systems
> the next day, but there are more that give up on the software
because it
> is not user friendly in the beginning. Not all who ask a simple
getting
> started question want to read 900 pages of a user manual but some
are
> told to do that with the basic answer--"it's in the maual, read it"
>
> AB is great software, it takes time to learn how to use it-- step by
> step.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
ps.com,
> "reinsley" <reinsley@> wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > It's a major point. How to find something that you don't know the
name
> > or don't ever know it exist ! Or if it's a generic name with
thousands
> > of entries.
> >
> > I saw with Excel user's list that when the simple examples are at
a
> > precise place, it is easier to give educational support to
beginners.
> >
> > The beginner wants to have results at once. He searches into help
> > manual and find a programmer help. That is useless for non
programmer,
> > it takes time to use this help.
> >
> > With 3 or 4 lines of code a "takeaway" example is a good tutorial.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
ps.com,
> "progster01" progster@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
ps.com,
> Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >When I first started, I did not know what to call things,
> > > >so most of my searches failed.
> > >
> > > Ha! I can relate to that!
> > >
> > > Sometimes people may find it easier to dash off a quick
question to
> > > the list than to troll deeply through the several possible
> references
> > > available.
> > >
> > > I always try to keep in mind that, in general, if the person
knew
> > > where to find the answer, they would go right to it. But, until
a
> > > more thorough acclimation takes place, newbies don't know where
to
> look.
> > >
> > > IMO, it's not realistic to expect every poster to have spent a
few
> > > months getting deeply familiar with the reference material. Even
> > > those who have spent significant time with the reference
material
> may
> > > still need a bit of "extra" or "different" explanation/example
> before
> > > the light comes on for any particular topic.
> > >
> > > A quick question may deserve a quick answer:
> > >
> > > "Try reading this page or topic and see if that helps."
> > >
> > > And what is wrong with that? (nothing, IMO)
> > >
> > > If a person more experienced with the product and the docs can
> direct
> > > someone to where the answer exists, it only takes a moment, and
that
> > > moment could substitute for hours of (fruitless?) searching on
the
> > > questioner's part.
> > >
> > > Clearly some people form an opinion along the lines of:
> > >
> > > "Oh come on, that's so obvious, and it's RIGHT THERE IN THE
DOCS"
> > >
> > > Well, maybe (and perhaps definitely!). OK, so just don't answer
that
> > > poster. Don't let it get to you! Either someone else will answer
> > > (question posed, question answered, no nick on you!), or the
poster
> > > will email support or figure it out themselves eventually.
> > >
> > > Civility (or refraining from incivility) helps the list, lack of
> > > civility hurts it (IMO).
> > >
> > > Posing a simple or "obvious" question is not "lack of civility"
> (IMO).
> > >
> > > BTW, "It's in the docs" is not a very helpful answer (to the
> > > questioner or the list).
> > >
> > > "I think what you are looking for is in the docs, HERE" is a
very
> > > helpful answer, and if more people who are capable of this
answer
> > > would step up to it then TJ would not have to!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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