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Here is a good example why it is so hard to search the group and find
information. I just picked this as an example but it happens all the
time. Clearly this thread is now not about 'Rule Based' versus
'Discretionary' trading, it is about helping out newcomers with AB.
Imagine searching for something and hitting a thread that has turned in
to something else than what it's subject title started as.
I've searched and sometimes have no idea why messages came up in the
search.
I know some here were able to download AB and start developing systems
the next day, but there are more that give up on the software because it
is not user friendly in the beginning. Not all who ask a simple getting
started question want to read 900 pages of a user manual but some are
told to do that with the basic answer--"it's in the maual, read it"
AB is great software, it takes time to learn how to use it-- step by
step.
Dave
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "reinsley" <reinsley@xxx> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> It's a major point. How to find something that you don't know the name
> or don't ever know it exist ! Or if it's a generic name with thousands
> of entries.
>
> I saw with Excel user's list that when the simple examples are at a
> precise place, it is easier to give educational support to beginners.
>
> The beginner wants to have results at once. He searches into help
> manual and find a programmer help. That is useless for non programmer,
> it takes time to use this help.
>
> With 3 or 4 lines of code a "takeaway" example is a good tutorial.
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "progster01" progster@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> >
> > >When I first started, I did not know what to call things,
> > >so most of my searches failed.
> >
> > Ha! I can relate to that!
> >
> > Sometimes people may find it easier to dash off a quick question to
> > the list than to troll deeply through the several possible
references
> > available.
> >
> > I always try to keep in mind that, in general, if the person knew
> > where to find the answer, they would go right to it. But, until a
> > more thorough acclimation takes place, newbies don't know where to
look.
> >
> > IMO, it's not realistic to expect every poster to have spent a few
> > months getting deeply familiar with the reference material. Even
> > those who have spent significant time with the reference material
may
> > still need a bit of "extra" or "different" explanation/example
before
> > the light comes on for any particular topic.
> >
> > A quick question may deserve a quick answer:
> >
> > "Try reading this page or topic and see if that helps."
> >
> > And what is wrong with that? (nothing, IMO)
> >
> > If a person more experienced with the product and the docs can
direct
> > someone to where the answer exists, it only takes a moment, and that
> > moment could substitute for hours of (fruitless?) searching on the
> > questioner's part.
> >
> > Clearly some people form an opinion along the lines of:
> >
> > "Oh come on, that's so obvious, and it's RIGHT THERE IN THE DOCS"
> >
> > Well, maybe (and perhaps definitely!). OK, so just don't answer that
> > poster. Don't let it get to you! Either someone else will answer
> > (question posed, question answered, no nick on you!), or the poster
> > will email support or figure it out themselves eventually.
> >
> > Civility (or refraining from incivility) helps the list, lack of
> > civility hurts it (IMO).
> >
> > Posing a simple or "obvious" question is not "lack of civility"
(IMO).
> >
> > BTW, "It's in the docs" is not a very helpful answer (to the
> > questioner or the list).
> >
> > "I think what you are looking for is in the docs, HERE" is a very
> > helpful answer, and if more people who are capable of this answer
> > would step up to it then TJ would not have to!
> >
>
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