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Ken,
For Your Info:
HtmlHelp that AB uses is a Microsoft Windows-wide standard
that consists of robust full-text engine that has each and every
word indexed already.
Sorry, but there is nothing better than that available to
Windows developers.
The same search is featured in products like Windows itself,
Microsoft Office, MSDN (5+GB of help documents there!) and
others.
Best regards,
Tomasz
Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:00
AM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Forum Re: 'Rule
Based' versus 'Discretionary' trading...
While
the Users Guide in pdf format will help you find things a little bit better
than the search function in the html help file, it still suffers greatly from
limitations in the search function. I just tried it on several recent
questions and unless you want to experiment with single search terms and look
at all the hits and repeat, this is not that much better than the html help
files.
I
believe a single work topic that would have great payoff and involving
programming and not writing or rewriting help material, is to install a robust
search engine, with all words and phrases indexed.
Ken
There is no reason to read 900 pages. The
Users Guide is in pdf format so your pdf search function will find just about
anything within a few tries - at least that's my
experience.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:35
PM
Subject: [amibroker] Forum Re: 'Rule
Based' versus 'Discretionary' trading...
Here is a good example why it is so hard to search the
group and find
information. I just picked this as an example but it
happens all the
time. Clearly this thread is now not about 'Rule Based'
versus
'Discretionary' trading, it is about helping out newcomers with
AB.
Imagine searching for something and hitting a thread that has
turned in
to something else than what it's subject title started
as.
I've searched and sometimes have no idea why messages came up in
the
search.
I know some here were able to download AB and start
developing systems
the next day, but there are more that give up on the
software because it
is not user friendly in the beginning. Not all who
ask a simple getting
started question want to read 900 pages of a user
manual but some are
told to do that with the basic answer--"it's in the
maual, read it"
AB is great software, it takes time to learn how to
use it-- step by
step.
Dave
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"reinsley" <reinsley@xxx> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
It's a major point. How to find something that you don't know the
name
> or don't ever know it exist ! Or if it's a generic name with
thousands
> of entries.
>
> I saw with Excel user's list
that when the simple examples are at a
> precise place, it is easier
to give educational support to beginners.
>
> The beginner wants
to have results at once. He searches into help
> manual and find a
programmer help. That is useless for non programmer,
> it takes time
to use this help.
>
> With 3 or 4 lines of code a "takeaway"
example is a good tutorial.
>
> Best
Regards
>
>
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"progster01" progster@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> >
> > >When I
first started, I did not know what to call things,
> > >so most
of my searches failed.
> >
> > Ha! I can relate to
that!
> >
> > Sometimes people may find it easier to dash
off a quick question to
> > the list than to troll deeply through
the several possible
references
> > available.
>
>
> > I always try to keep in mind that, in general, if the
person knew
> > where to find the answer, they would go right to
it. But, until a
> > more thorough acclimation takes place, newbies
don't know where to
look.
> >
> > IMO, it's not
realistic to expect every poster to have spent a few
> > months
getting deeply familiar with the reference material. Even
> > those
who have spent significant time with the reference material
may
>
> still need a bit of "extra" or "different"
explanation/example
before
> > the light comes on for any
particular topic.
> >
> > A quick question may deserve a
quick answer:
> >
> > "Try reading this page or topic and
see if that helps."
> >
> > And what is wrong with that?
(nothing, IMO)
> >
> > If a person more experienced with
the product and the docs can
direct
> > someone to where the
answer exists, it only takes a moment, and that
> > moment could
substitute for hours of (fruitless?) searching on the
> >
questioner's part.
> >
> > Clearly some people form an
opinion along the lines of:
> >
> > "Oh come on, that's so
obvious, and it's RIGHT THERE IN THE DOCS"
> >
> > Well,
maybe (and perhaps definitely!). OK, so just don't answer that
> >
poster. Don't let it get to you! Either someone else will answer
>
> (question posed, question answered, no nick on you!), or the
poster
> > will email support or figure it out themselves
eventually.
> >
> > Civility (or refraining from
incivility) helps the list, lack of
> > civility hurts it
(IMO).
> >
> > Posing a simple or "obvious" question is
not "lack of civility"
(IMO).
> >
> > BTW, "It's in the
docs" is not a very helpful answer (to the
> > questioner or the
list).
> >
> > "I think what you are looking for is in the
docs, HERE" is a very
> > helpful answer, and if more people who
are capable of this answer
> > would step up to it then TJ would
not have to!
>
>
>
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