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Yes dennis, i didn't mean to imply lack of reliability - I really wouldn'y
know.
However, I prefer "Instant" recovery and have decided to use several levels
of partitions/drives that contain fully functional backups of the entire
system. This provides for virtually Single-Click, instant, restores. This in
addition to a periodic back up to an external USB.
It also allows me to use one separate physical drive for data that will be
shared by various windows operating systems. This should allow me to run XP,
Vista64, or whatever. This has to be tested. I hope Amibroker and various
data downloaders will allow saving to another harddrive...
herman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [amibroker] The Perfect (?!) AmiBroker Setup [ was Vista
64...]
> Herman,
>
> I believe my system is actually more reliable using virtualization
> software (not that I have a choice). I backup the entire virtual
> machine to a RAID backup every night. A couple of times, I have
> messed up and recovery was as simple as "connecting" my backed up
> virtual hard drive and copying back over the damaged file. The VM
> system that runs AB has the absolute minimum configuration for AB so
> it is not that large to just back up the whole VM as opposed to say
> the AB folder. Since everything else I run is on Mac OS X it is
> isolated from the usual Windows attacks. I could actually have
> several VM configurations of different AB setups on the same machine,
> each in their own VM running side by side with all my general purpose
> programs.
>
> I would not discount VM setups as being potentially unreliable as they
> actually offer more options for a robust setup.
>
> I could say a few words about reliability in the mix and match world
> of Windows, but I am to bigoted to be believed. ;-)
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis
>
> On Jul 12, 2008, at 10:57 AM, psytek wrote:
>
>> Thank you Dennis and d for sharing your setup - it is very
>> interesting and helpful to learn what others are doing.
>>
>> I am concerned about anything that depends on a control
>> (virtualization) program to keep things up and running.
>>
>> That is why I am considering using separate hard disks, each one
>> bootable. The bootstrap (?... this is taking me back in
>> time some 20 years...) program can still fail but is probably
>> extremely small. however, the Acronis DD also includes
>> recovery programs.
>>
>> Currently I use just one development (3 monitors, expandable) and
>> one laptop (two monitors) trading computer. I spend most of my
>> time in development (the fun part). I plan to give trading more
>> priority but it still would be something that happens
>> off to the side of my main desk. I will use voice reporting to keep
>> me informed about trades etc.
>>
>> Synergy sounds interesting... I would be able to control the laptop
>> without moving my chair :-)
>> there was some mentioning about difficulty in setup... was it easy
>> d? The price is right! :-)
>>
>> I chatted with Acronis and they tell me I should be able to read my
>> data-drive from XP32, Vista32, and Vista64 running
>> in another partition (disk). This means i should be able to have a
>> common drive for all my AFL, DATA, and docs - without loss
>> of speed. It also means that I can run plugins in their required OS
>> to maintain my DBs, while i can access the DBs from 64
>> bit programs. I love this idea.
>>
>> I wonder what Tomasz would have to say about this and I may email AB-
>> support to be sure.
>>
>> herman
>>
>>
>>
>> From: dingo <dingo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 10:17:54 AM
>> Subject: [amibroker] The Perfect (?!) AmiBroker Setup [ was Vista
>> 64...]
>>
>> Excellent point about virtualization!! I've been reading up on it
>> and am
>> considering using it - very flexible in multi-os situations.
>>
>> Herman - take a serious look at this.
>>
>> d
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dennis Brown
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:10 AM
>>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] The Perfect (?!) AmiBroker Setup [
>>> was Vista 64...]
>>>
>>> Herman,
>>>
>>> What you describe is not that different than my setup -- Except mine
>>> is all Apple Hardware running VM for Windows XP. The interesting
>>> thing about this approach is that the device drivers are emulated by
>>> the VM. This means that even though I have different Apple machines
>>> with different video and other hardware, Windows thinks I have the
>>> same well supported hardware no matter what I have.
>>>
>>> One of the strengths of Apple machines is the limited but well
>>> supported hardware configurations all provided by the same source.
>>> Running Windows in a VM environment brings that aspect to Windows.
>>>
>>> I am not suggesting that switch to Apple hardware, but consider if
>>> using Virtualization technology would provide a more robust
>>> environment for multiple OSs.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 8:46 AM, psytek wrote:
>>>
>>>> In my painful search for the optimum AmiBroker setup I
>>> decided that
>>>> I want:
>>>>
>>>> 1) a non-destructive procedure for upgrading of OS, AmiBroker, and
>>>> other software. This means that the previous
>>>> environments remain fully functional until the new software is
>>>> proven and fully functional.
>>>> 2) Only two computers, one for development and one for trading.
>>>> 2) Single multiple monitor display/working center (no more rolling
>>>> around in my chair!).
>>>> 3) Multi-OS capability, perhaps on separate hard disks. So that I
>>>> can test Vista 32/64, XP 32/64/professional, or
>>>> whatever comes along without risk and loss of time.
>>>> 4) Separate hard disk for stock data and afl; readable by all OSs.
>>>> 5) easy cloning to facilitate creating a new setup, first in
>>>> partition and later to separate HD.
>>>> 6) Backup hard disk in development-system, with secondary
>>> backup on
>>>> networked trading computer.
>>>>
>>>> Hard disks have become as cheap as memory and using several
>>> of them
>>>> reduces media-risk.
>>>>
>>>> Googling a bit I found Acronis Disk Director Suite
>>>>
>>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/diskdirector/mul
>>> tibooting.html
>>>> I use/respect Acronis and would expect this product to work. The
>>>> price ($49) is reasonable so the financial risk is small
>>> and they it
>>>> is compatible with XP/Vista 64
>>>> bits.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone using the above mentioned Acronis Multiboot software?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone see flaws in the above computer setup?
>>>>
>>>> #### Is it possible to have AmiBroker data on a separate hard disk
>>>> and access it from other HDs/OSs? ####
>>>>
>>>> Herman
>>>>
>>>> Saturday, July 12, 2008, 7:22:38 AM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, all 64 bit Windows variants require 64 bit drivers. If
>>>>> hardware vendor
>>>>> does not supply 64-bit driver you can't use particular hardware
>>>>> with 64-bit OS.
>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "psytek" <psytek@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: [amibroker] [OT] XP Professional vs Vista 64
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone using 64-bit XP Professional? Does it have the same
>>>>>> limitations wrt drivers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to admit I am very disappointed with Vista-64; seems to
>>>>>> have been a waste of money and time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone running the TWS under Vista-64? the TWS cannot
>>> find javaw...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any alternatives to improving performance wrt to available memory?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Computers can be a real pain ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comment and advice would be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> herman
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> psytek
>>>>
>>>>
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