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I have never belonged to this group when it was active, and frankly
think I missed out. While other lists that I have been associated with
seem to grow and flourish, this one seems to be stuck. Really
unfortunate for those like me who are still the neophytes, the unwashed
beginners (and some of us take a very long time to become relatively
proficient). And I value the input to this list when it does arrive;
for me I try to glean what nuggets appear. So I thank those who do
take the time to do so like Ben, Earl, you Bob, Clyde, Ira, when he
does. Those whom come to mind at the moment. And I know there is a
lot of wisdom, knowledge, and talent represented in this membership.
So what has caused the die off? I have never felt that has been
flaming or trashing anyone's posting.
What would cause anyone to become more active?
As of this moment there are 942 members. Why are we all hanging
around? Why the large membership that does not post? What does the
membership want to see here?
As far as advertising is concerned: I really get annoyed by overt,
blatant postings. I don't care much if what is posted is related to a
discussion or in response to query.
Bob, when it does surface, there is generally enough bitching at the
poster to at least bring it to your attention and you can act on it
however you are inclined. I am with what John seems to be stating that
a relative standard could be applied rather than an absolute one.
Some thoughts,
Dan
BobsKC wrote:
I am in favor of invigorating the list as much as you are
John. I
will do anything the membership wants to do but it will take some
convincing to cause me to believe that a majority of our members want
to
see any type of advertising on this list or that the list would be
somehow better with such content. I do waive this rule at the end
of each year for the week between Christmas and New Years so our
members
who wish to, can state what they offer and how to access those services
or products but how a steady flow of such information would improve the
quality or animation of the list escapes me.
This list doesn't belong to me or anyone. It belongs to all of you
and if you want unrestricted advertising on our list, let me know and
if
I hear from 50.1% of you that this is what you want, I'll drop that
restriction.
Bob
At 06:08 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote:
Bob:
While I in general support the
prohibition
on advertising, I thought Tim’s post was made within the proper context
for usefulness. Perhaps zero tolerance is just a little too
oppressive. It is my opinion, and my opinion only, that the quality
of the discussion has evaporated over the last several years.
Perhaps a little leeway on this issue, in a contextual basis, would
help
invigorate the group and discussion a little. It is just a
suggestion in the spirit of Real Traders sharing their experiences.
Regards,
John J. Lothian
From:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[
mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jim
thompson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:12 PM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RT] Re: Advertising
I'm wondering Bob
why we
have that policy regarding advertising. Was that something the list
members voted on or just the moderator decided on it or just how did
that
come into being? You're right in that I believe the vast majority
do not want this forum to be a place where we get inundated with tons
of
spam advertising. But I'm sure on the other hand many listers would be
very interested in what Ira, Ben, Tim et al have to offer. I for one am
always on a continual quest to be 'educated' and I'm willing to pay for
it. Certainly we can contact them offline to find out what each has to
offer, but, likewise, often we have no idea someone has something to
offer unless they 'mention' it here. I, for one, found Tim's post very
innocuous and appreciated him letting us know 'he's back' and how to
get
a hold of him and what he has to offer. The majority of spam
advertisers we've seemed to have here have been the one time blatantly
hit and disappear type. Maybe some leniency could be available to
listers who have been on the forum say for a year+, or who have posted
X
number of times or something similar. jt
- From: BobsKC
<bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Advertising
- I have sent two direct mails to the offenders of our no
advertising
- policy in the past week warning them about violations of this
- rule. I remind everyone again that this list has zero
tolerance
for
- ignoring this policy and after having sent this out, I will
now
- remove anyone who violates this policy without notice.
Simply
put,
- do not mention or brag or talk about your services or
products or
- anyone else's services or products on this list unless said
products
- or services are totally free without enhanced, charged
services or
products.
- Bob
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