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One thing about our list is that the mails are not moderated. In
other words, all posts go directly out to the subscribers where on some
lists, all posts go to the moderator for approval. Due to this, I
have been steady on the no ads policy but if you want to try allowing
content which simply shows where someone obtained the information to make
a chart or draw a conclusion, I'll begin letting up on such things while
still being forceful with regard to blatant advertising. As I said,
it's your list, not mine and I'll do whatever the membership wants
done.
Bob
At 07:42 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote:
Bob:
I think there is a lot of room between zero
tolerance and unrestricted advertising. The first thing I said was
that I support the general prohibition against advertising. What I
would be for would be inclusion of commercial information relevant to the
context of the purpose of Real Traders. It may take a little more
subjective decision making on the part of moderators, as to what is
advertising and what is contextual sharing; but I am willing to let the
moderators decide.
I have not posted much to Real Traders in
recent years, so perhaps my opinion does not hold much weight, but mixing
things up a little bit now and then goes a long way towards keeping the
group invigorated and interesting.
Regards,
John J. Lothian
From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[
mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BobsKC
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:59 PM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RT] Re: Advertising
I am in favor of invigorating the
list as much as you are John. I will do anything the membership
wants to do but it will take some convincing to cause me to believe
that a majority of our members want to see any type of advertising on
this list or that the list would be somehow better with such
content. I do waive this rule at the end of each year for the week
between Christmas and New Years so our members who wish to, can state
what they offer and how to access those services or products but how a
steady flow of such information would improve the quality or animation of
the list escapes me.
This list doesn't belong to me or anyone. It belongs to all of you
and if you want unrestricted advertising on our list, let me know and if
I hear from 50.1% of you that this is what you want, I'll drop that
restriction.
Bob
At 06:08 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote:
Bob:
While I in general support the prohibition
on advertising, I thought Tim’s post was made within the proper context
for usefulness. Perhaps zero tolerance is just a little too
oppressive. It is my opinion, and my opinion only, that the quality
of the discussion has evaporated over the last several years.
Perhaps a little leeway on this issue, in a contextual basis, would help
invigorate the group and discussion a little. It is just a
suggestion in the spirit of Real Traders sharing their experiences.
Regards,
John J. Lothian
From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jim
thompson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:12 PM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RT] Re: Advertising
I'm wondering Bob why we
have that policy regarding advertising. Was that something the list
members voted on or just the moderator decided on it or just how did that
come into being? You're right in that I believe the vast majority
do not want this forum to be a place where we get inundated with tons of
spam advertising. But I'm sure on the other hand many listers would be
very interested in what Ira, Ben, Tim et al have to offer. I for one am
always on a continual quest to be 'educated' and I'm willing to pay for
it. Certainly we can contact them offline to find out what each has to
offer, but, likewise, often we have no idea someone has something to
offer unless they 'mention' it here. I, for one, found Tim's post very
innocuous and appreciated him letting us know 'he's back' and how to get
a hold of him and what he has to offer. The majority of spam
advertisers we've seemed to have here have been the one time blatantly
hit and disappear type. Maybe some leniency could be available to
listers who have been on the forum say for a year+, or who have posted X
number of times or something similar. jt
From: BobsKC
<bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Advertising
I have sent two direct mails to the
offenders of our no advertising
policy in the past week warning them
about violations of this
rule. I remind everyone again
that this list has zero tolerance for
ignoring this policy and after having
sent this out, I will now
remove anyone who violates this
policy without notice. Simply put,
do not mention or brag or talk about
your services or products or
anyone else's services or products on
this list unless said products
or services are totally free without
enhanced, charged services or products.
Bob
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