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Hi bob,
Great idea,lets try it,if it does not work,we can always go back to zero tole.
rashid
>From: BobsKC <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Mon Sep 26 22:13:23 CDT 2005
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [RT] Re: Advertising
>One thing about our list is that the mails are not moderated.? Inother words, all posts go directly out to the subscribers where on somelists, all posts go to the moderator for approval.? Due to this, Ihave been steady on the no ads policy but if you want to try allowingcontent which simply shows where someone obtained the information to makea chart or draw a conclusion, I'll begin letting up on such things whilestill being forceful with regard to blatant advertising.? As I said,it's your list, not mine and I'll do whatever the membership wantsdone.
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>Bob
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>At 07:42 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote:
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>I think there is a lot of room between zerotolerance and unrestricted advertising.? The first thing I said wasthat I support the general prohibition against advertising.? What Iwould be for would be inclusion of commercial information relevant to thecontext of the purpose of Real Traders.? It may take a little moresubjective decision making on the part of moderators, as to what isadvertising and what is contextual sharing; but I am willing to let themoderators decide.
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>I have not posted much to Real Traders inrecent years, so perhaps my opinion does not hold much weight, but mixingthings up a little bit now and then goes a long way towards keeping thegroup invigorated and interesting.?
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>Regards,
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>John J. Lothian
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>From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BobsKC
>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:59 PM
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [RT] Re: Advertising
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>I am in favor of invigorating thelist as much as you are John.? I will do anything the membershipwants to do? but it will take some convincing to cause me to believethat a majority of our members want to see any type of advertising onthis list or that the list would be somehow better with suchcontent.? I do waive this rule at the end of each year for the weekbetween Christmas and New Years so our members who wish to, can statewhat they offer and how to access those services or products but how asteady flow of such information would improve the quality or animation ofthe list escapes me.
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>This list doesn't belong to me or anyone.? It belongs to all of youand if you want unrestricted advertising on our list, let me know and ifI hear from 50.1% of you that this is what you want, I'll drop thatrestriction.?
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>Bob
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>At 06:08 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote:
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>While I in general support the prohibitionon advertising, I thought Tim?s post was made within the proper contextfor usefulness.? Perhaps zero tolerance is just a little toooppressive.? It is my opinion, and my opinion only, that the qualityof the discussion has evaporated over the last several years.??Perhaps a little leeway on this issue, in a contextual basis, would helpinvigorate the group and discussion a little.? It is just asuggestion in the spirit of Real Traders sharing their experiences.
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>Regards,
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>John J. Lothian
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>From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jimthompson
>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:12 PM
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [RT] Re: Advertising
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>I'm wondering Bob why wehave that policy regarding advertising. Was that something the listmembers voted on or just the moderator decided on it or just how did thatcome into being?? You're right in that I believe the vast majoritydo not want this forum to be a place where we get inundated with tons ofspam advertising. But I'm sure on the other hand many listers would bevery interested in what Ira, Ben, Tim et al have to offer. I for one amalways on a continual quest to be 'educated' and I'm willing to pay forit. Certainly we can contact them offline to find out what each has tooffer, but, likewise, often we have no idea someone has something tooffer unless they 'mention' it here. I, for one, found Tim's post veryinnocuous and appreciated him letting us know 'he's back' and how to geta hold of him and what he has to offer.? The majority of spamadvertisers we've seemed to have here have been the one time blatantlyhit and disappear type.? Maybe some leniency could be available tolisters who have been on the forum say for a year+, or who have posted Xnumber of times or something similar.? jt
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>?? From: BobsKC<bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Subject: Advertising
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>I have sent two direct mails to theoffenders of our no advertising
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>policy in the past week warning themabout violations of this
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>rule.? I remind everyone againthat this list has zero tolerance for
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>ignoring this policy and after havingsent this out, I will now
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>remove anyone who violates thispolicy without notice.? Simply put,
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>do not mention or brag or talk aboutyour services or products or
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>anyone else's services or products onthis list unless said products
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>or services are totally free withoutenhanced, charged services or products.
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>Bob
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