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 Yes, this predicting stuff is so silly.  
Makes me think of the 1-800 hotlines.  LOL!  They claim to predict, 
but predict nothing.  This is so silly.
 I can honestly say that I have NEVER 
PREDICTED that I will Live or not live over night and get up or not get up in 
the morning.
 I can honestly say that I have NEVER 
PREDICTED that I will or will not leave my house at this or that time and arrive 
at the office at this or that time.
 The above is so much crap and so silly, it is 
like the twilite zone.  :)
 I couldn't even tell you the exact time I 
left my house this morning or yesterday, much less predict 
tomorrow.
 There is nothing wrong with 
predicting. Many do it. I don't.
And I can honestly say I have NEVER predicted any 
of the above.  That would be silly.
Kind of like predicting the next full moon.  
How silly
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  >From: 
  ClydeLee 
  (swb) 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:33 
PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 
  top
  
  What the hell is so bad about 
  predicting.
   
  I predict all the time.
   
  I predict I will live over the night and get up 
  in the morning.
  I predict that I will leave the house at 7-7:15 
  and arrive at the office in 7-15 minutes.
  I predict that I will leave the office at 3:30 
  +/- 15 minutes and 7-15 minutes to home.
   
  We are always PRDICTING/ANTICIPATING -- I have 
  never heard
  so much crap for people not willing to admit that 
  they do predict
  what will happen when they take some 
  action.
   
  Semantics, semantics, BS, BS, BS ! ! ! ! 
  
   
  Clyde
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  Westglen, Suite 105       
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    <DIV 
    >From: 
    RB 
    
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:09 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 
    top
    
      Well, I guess that would alos depend on 
    who you ask.  :)
     To me, making a bet has nothing to do 
    with making a prediction.  
     I don't bet or gamble, but lets say I was 
    making a bet on a basketball game.  Lets say Duke was playing 
    Carolina.
    I would bet on Duke because I honestly think 
    they are the better of the two, but I am deffinately not predicting that 
    they WILL win.  They are not undefeated, and even if they were, 
    undefeated, I still would not come out and predict that they would win, but 
    if I had to bet, I would take Duke!
     Kind of like playing black jack or 
    anything.  You play, you bet, but of course you don't predict you are 
    going to win.  That would be silly.  
    But, don't get me wrong.  You can predict 
    and some do predict.  I don't predict!  
     Maybe an intelligent guess, 
    sometimes.  :)
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      <DIV 
      >From: 
      Mark 
      Simms 
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:12 
      PM
      Subject: RE: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 
      top
      
      Here's one 
      related to this issue:
       
      Is making a 
      BET the same as making a PREDICTION ?
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        <FONT face=Tahoma 
        size=2>-----Original Message-----From: RB 
        [mailto:rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 
        9:53 PMTo: <A 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
        Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 top
         Another point about your 
        email.
         You seem to be talking about the 
        10%-20% who make make some money.   How about the 80%-90% that 
        lose?  
        Are they predicting and are just 
        wrong?  
         Maybe that is one of my main 
        points.  
         YES, you can predict!  But, most 
        of the time it is wrong.
         But, now back to me.  I don't 
        predict.  And why you, say that I can and do predict is beyond 
        logic.
        I don't even know what happened in most 
        markets yesterday.  Why in the world you think I can predict the 
        future, is silly.
         So, YES, I fail to see the 
        obvious!
        Also remember, if you see the nose on your 
        face, you are spending too much time in front of a mirrow.
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          ----- Original Message ----- 
          <DIV 
          >From: 
          Adrian 
          Pitt 
          To: <A 
          title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          
          Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 
          12:20 AM
          Subject: RE: [RT] nasdaq and 
          sp500 top
          
          <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
          size=2>RB,
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          <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
          size=2>You fail to see the obvious.  When you take a buy signal 
          based on your indicators you ARE making a 
          prediction.
          <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
          size=2>End of story...to disagree with this is to stick ones head in 
          the sand and argue semantics.  If you make 
          money
          <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
          size=2>from your trades on balance, by definition your tools are 
          making an accurate forecast just as you intended them to. 
          
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          size=2>Perhaps not in the narrow sense you <SPAN 
          class=250321708-08032004>may 
          think, but a forecast they are making. I'll leave it to you to work 
          out what that exactly is...but its as plain as the nose on your face 
          :)
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          size=2> 
          <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
          size=2>Cheers,
          <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
          size=2>Adrian
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            <FONT 
            face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: RB 
            [mailto:rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 
            1:43 PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
            Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 topTo some people 
            maybe.  But, I use indicators etc. and predict nothing.  
            Ifmy indicators show buy.  I buy.  Nothing to do with 
            me predicting anythingat all.  And that is good.  My 
            opinions and predictions are usually not toogood.  In other 
            words I would be wrong to often.  I like to use charts 
            andlet my indicators etc. do the work.  I leave the 
            predictions to the psycics.As far as taking trades.  I am 
            predicting nothing.  What would make youthink I could or 
            would predict anything?I take the signals, use stops and don't 
            worry about it.Kind of like any bussiness, games or anything in 
            life.  We can't predict ifwe will win, but we can prepare 
            and do our best and hope things work out.Yes, I know Broadway 
            Joe predicted the jets win over the colts.  Somethings 
            can't be explained!  :)  But, most teams prepare and hope 
            for thebest, but can't predict the out come.  If i 
            would have tried, I would have probably predicted the last 5 tops 
            inthe stock market that didn't happen.  LOL!Many others 
            have done this many, many times.I guess some try to 
            predict?  I don't predict anything!----- Original 
            Message -----From: "ClydeLee (swb)" 
            <clydelee@xxxxxxxxxx>To: 
            <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 
            3:24 PMSubject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 top> 
            You say:>> " I've been following markets for close to 
            30 years and have never> predicted anything.">> 
            Now personally I think that is a crock.>> Any time you 
            take a trade you are predicting that prices will move in> a 
            direction that will make you a profit or you would not take a 
            trade.>> This concept of not predicting and only 
            reacting to the market is> definitely out of kilter with 
            reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>> Clyde>> - - 
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            Clyde Lee   
            Chairman/CEO          
            (Home of SwingMachine)> SYTECH 
            Corporation          
            email: clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 7910 Westglen, Suite 
            105       Office:    
            (713) 783-9540> Houston,  TX  
            77063               
            Fax:    (713) 783-1092> Details 
            at:                      
            www.theswingmachine.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
            - -  - - - - - - - ->>> ----- Original 
            Message -----> From: "RB" 
            <rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: 
            <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 
            2004 6:49 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 
            top>>> > Yep.  The word predict has 
            nothing to do with trading.> > If it did we would never 
            need stops or protection.  :)> >  I've been 
            following markets for close to 30 years and have never> 
            predicted> > anything.> >  Just be careful 
            with the ones who claim they can predict, or make a> 
            $1,000> > a day or make 200% a week in trading etc. There 
            are many of those crooks> on> > the net.  If 
            they could do that, they would have more money than  
            Gatesin> 4> > years. Just find out their names 
            and check to see if they are listed as> one> > of 
            the richest peopele in the world.  Odds are they are not even 
            closeto> > being the richest on their block. :)  
            Most likely not even the richestin> > their own 
            family.  LOL!> >> >> > ----- 
            Original Message -----> > From: "mr.ira" 
            <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > To: 
            <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Sent: Sunday, March 
            07, 2004 11:39 AM> > Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq and sp500 
            top> >> >> > > One can not predict 
            the future with 100% reliability, but one cantrade> > 
            with> > > a very high degree of probability, 
            80%+.  As for owning the world, not> > with> 
            > > the current liquidity.> > >> > 
            >> > > ----- Original Message -----> > 
            > From: "RB" <rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > To: 
            <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > Sent: Sunday, 
            March 07, 2004 1:41 PM> > > Subject: Re: [RT] nasdaq 
            and sp500 top> > >> > >> > > 
            > The future can not be predicted period.  If one could, 
            they wouldown> > the> > > > 
            world.  But, since one can't, we are in the same boat. :)  
            Run don't> > walk> > > > from someone 
            saying this or that predicts this or that.> > > 
            >> > > > ----- Original Message -----> 
            > > > From: "Alex Bell" <alex_bell@xxxxxxx>> 
            > > > To: "profitok" 
            <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > > Sent: 
            Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:01 AM> > > > Subject: Re: 
            [RT] nasdaq and sp500 top> > > >> > > 
            >> > > > > Hello Ben,> > > > 
            >> > > > > I  have overlaid it over 
            Wilshire 5000 index portfolio (symbol> WINDX).> > 
            > > > See  attached.  As  far  as  
            I can see (and of course I may be> missing> > > 
            > > smth.)  for the last year the study predicted about 5 
            tops that> didn't> > > > > occur and 
            suggested no one long (didn't predict any bottom).> > > 
            > >> > > > > Best regards,> > 
            > > >  
            Alex                            
            mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxx> > > > >> > 
            > > >> > > > > Sunday, March 7, 2004, 
            8:14:26 AM, you wrote:> > > > >> > > 
            > > p> Hello> > > > >> > > 
            > > p> this is my long term trading> > > > 
            > p> it is done on the weekly  bars of the  
            whilshire 5000> > > > > p> (almost all stocks 
            traded)> > > > >> > > > > 
            p> when the line reaches the top it is a good time to exit 
            your> > > > conservative money  and 401K and 
            IRA> > > > >> > > > > p> 
            right now we are  VERY close to a top  (max upside  
            potentialis> > 250> > > > 
            whilshire  5000 points)> > > > >> 
            > > > > p> the chrt is  reduced to a 1/10  
            of value (current close 11314)> > > > > p> 
            Ben> > > > >> > > > >> 
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