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David:
 
The original is probably not available 
new, but the one co-authored with Hall "Mastering Elliot Wave: Presenting the 
Neely Method: The First Scientific, Objective Approach to Market Forecasting 
with the Elliott Wave Theory" is available from several 
sources.
 
Bill
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  <A title=davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>David Jennings 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 8:44 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track 
  record
  I find your tone irritating however, see the attached!----- 
  Original Message -----From: "Adrian Pitt" <<A 
  href="mailto:apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: 
  Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:04 PMSubject: RE: [RT] Re: forecasting-track 
  record> David,>> It's a shame, but you should 
  almost never believe what someone tells you> unless you can confirm it 
  for yourself or they can define on what basis> they make their 
  statement.>> The first place I looked for the 
  book....AMAZON...and where else would> you go as a first guess?..its 
  says its ships in 8-14 days...no mention> of being out of print or out 
  of stock.  There are also copies second> hand.>> I 
  hope you research your trades better :-)>> 
  Adrian>> > -----Original Message-----> > From: 
  David Jennings [mailto:davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> > Sent: 
  Thursday, 11 July 2002 8:28 PM> > To: <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
  > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> >> 
  >> > Out of print I'm told. Looks like I'll have to stick to 
  Miner.> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Adrian 
  Pitt" <<A 
  href="mailto:apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > To: 
  <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
  > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:18 AM> > Subject: RE: [RT] Re: 
  forecasting-track record> >> >> > > 
  Earl,> > >> > > Miners work is good, but his EW is 
  fairly simplistic, but> > he does put> > > it into a 
  form that can be used by traders.  If anyone> > truly wants 
  to> > > understand markets better and apply Elliott Wave in a far 
  more> > > accurate and scientific way there is ONLY ONE SOURCE of 
  good> > > information. and that's Glen Neely's book.  I 
  STRONGLY WARN readers> > > though not to bother> > > 
  With it unless EWT really takes your interest.  It's a big book 
  and> > > EVERY PAGE> > > has critical information on 
  it, so lots of learning and> > practicing. But> > > 
  it> > > works, impeccably.  Its not a book about trading 
  though,> > only accurate> > > wave> > > 
  reading.> > >> > > Adrian> > >> 
  > > > -----Original Message-----> > > > From: Earl 
  Adamy [mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx]> > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 
  July 2002 1:46 AM> > > > To: <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
  > > > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> > 
  > >> > > >> > > > I think you make two 
  valid points: know how to do the counts> > > > yourself and be 
  able to control/apply your own counts> > when you don't> > 
  > > like the automated counts. I highly recommend the simplified 
  EW> > > > approach used by Robert Miner in his Dynamic Trader 
  book> > ($100 with> > > > full money back guarantee 
  at> > > > <A 
  href="http://www.dynamictraders.com";>www.dynamictraders.com) ... I don't 
  use the DT3 software. I'm not> > > > familiar with EW3 (I did 
  have WinWaves and didn't care for it),> > > > however AGet 
  which I use, allows one to control counts to> > a limited> 
  > > > degree (short term, aggressive, regular, long term, 
  plus> > localize)> > > > ... as a last resort I just 
  turn the EW counts off and> > apply my own> > > > 
  labels.> > > >> > > > Earl> > > 
  >> > > > ----- Original Message -----> > > 
  > From: "wavemechanic" <<A 
  href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > 
  > To: <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
  > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:28 AM> > > > 
  Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> > > >> 
  > > >> > > >> > > >   ----- 
  Original Message -----> > > >   From: Karen 
  Beckwith> > > >   To: <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
  > > >   Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:16 AM> 
  > > >   Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track 
  record> > > >> > > >> > > 
  >   Jeff:> > > >   Looking for a holy 
  grail?  Have u ever looked into the EW3> > > > (Elliott 
  Wave)> > > >   software?  I can't find anyone 
  who uses it, but it> > sounds awfully> > > > 
  good.> > > >   Anyone here familiar w/ EW3?> 
  > > >> > > >   I have not used EWII but did 
  use the previous version WinWaves,> > > > and EWII is supposed 
  to have a better analysis engine.> > However, a> > > 
  > couple of thoughts.  What is the correct count?  There are 
  many> > > > counts and in the last analysis the only one that 
  is> > right is yours.> > > > So being able to do 
  your own count is important, and the> > software is> > 
  > > a tool to increase your efficiency and, perhaps, help you over 
  the> > > > rough spots.  Having said that, one important 
  feature that I> > > > would be sure to have is the ability to 
  input my count and> > > > see how it plays.  Most EW 
  programs do not have this option,> > > > but if I recall 
  correctly ELWave does.  FWIW.> > > >> > > 
  >   best wishes,> > > >   karen> 
  > > >   ps - May the force be with you.> > > 
  >   :>)> > > >   :>)> > 
  > >> > > >   ----- Original Message 
  -----> > > >   From: "jeff97_98_1998" <<A 
  href="mailto:jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx>> > 
  > >   To: <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
  > > >   Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM> > 
  > >   Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> > 
  > >> > > >> > > >   
  >> > > >   > "If one tries to fight these 
  forces they will be> > destroyed. If one> > > 
  >   > can unite and redirect these forces to> > > 
  >   > ones advantage, one should be able to progress quite 
  swiftly."> > > >   >> > > 
  >   >> > > >   > Sounds like a 
  re-run of Kung Fu.> > > >   > Grasshopper, my 
  son, be of unity with the universe.> > > >   > 
  Now catch this fly in my soup.> > > >   >> 
  > > >   > Please enlighten me, how does one unite and 
  redirect these> > > > forces to> > > 
  >   > ones advantage?> > > >   
  >> > > >   > How do I redirect a drought in 
  the midwest, terrorist attack> > > > crashing> > 
  > >   > the S & P , lumber import regulations vs. 
  canadian exports?> > > >   >> > > 
  >   > Fundamentals, schmundamentals, blah, blah.> > 
  > >   >> > > >   > I have the 
  force, the unity, the polarity...> > > >   
  >> > > >   > Beam me up Scotty,  for I 
  have discovered how markets> > > >   > 
  work,  yet I waste my time trolling for fish.> > > 
  >   > Why is that?> > > >   
  >> > > >   >> > > 
  >   >> > > >   >> > 
  > >   >> > > >   >> 
  > > >   >> > > >   > --- In 
  realtraders@x..., "Norman Winski" <<A 
  href="mailto:nwinski@x";>nwinski@x...> wrote:> > > 
  >   > > Reinar,> > > >   > 
  >> > > >   > >   From one sailor 
  to another, when one's sailboat hits> > > > a sand 
  bar,> > > >   > that's> > > 
  >   > > called running a ground and that's not a good 
  thing.> > > >   > >> > > 
  >   > >  I know it's time for me to take a vacation. 
  Your sailing> > > > metaphor> > > 
  >   > is> > > >   > > starting 
  to make sense to me.<G>  Seriously, I agree that> > > 
  > sailing> > > >   > is a good> > 
  > >   > > analogy for trading, but not for the reasons 
  you> > have stated. I> > > >   > 
  think> > > >   > > sailing is a good analogy 
  for trading because in order to be> > > >   > 
  successful, one> > > >   > > must join with 
  the huge natural forces at work.  If> > one tries to> 
  > > >   > fight these> > > >   
  > > forces they will be destroyed. If one can unite and> > 
  redirect> > > > these> > > >   > 
  forces to> > > >   > > ones advantage, one 
  should be able to progress> > quite swiftly.> > > 
  >   > >> > > >   > >  
  Gann fans - the ideal position to attain maximum> > speed is 
  to> > > > have> > > >   > the 
  sail> > > >   > > at a 45 degree angle to the 
  wind.> > > >   > >> > > 
  >   > > Nautically,> > > >   > 
  >> > > >   > > Norman> > > 
  >   > >> > > >   > 
  >> > > >   > >> > > 
  >   > > ----- Original Message -----> > > 
  >   > > From: "reinar2020" <<A 
  href="mailto:reinar2020@x";>reinar2020@x...>> > > 
  >   > > To: <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x...>> > > 
  >   > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM> > 
  > >   > > Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track 
  record> > > >   > >> > > 
  >   > >> > > >   > > > 
  Elk> > > >   > > >> > > 
  >   > > > Not only will I continue to use sailing as 
  a> > metaphor but I> > > > will> > > 
  >   > > > expand the use. There are several reasons. 
  Selling to "the> > > >   > traders"> > 
  > >   > > > market is too limiting and more 
  imortant.... If> > you can think> > > >   
  > like a> > > >   > > > sailor you can 
  think like a profitable trader......> > > >   > 
  > >> > > >   > > >> > > 
  >   > > > If you have ever been sailing you would know 
  that> > it is kind> > > > of a> > > 
  >   > > > zen like experience where you have a very 
  specific focus.> > > > All the> > > 
  >   > BS> > > >   > > > 
  that is provided by the media etc is gone.> > > >   
  > > >> > > >   > > > There are 
  other advantages. Any monkey can draw> > an Andrews> > 
  > > line> > > >   > and> > > 
  >   > > > if you read his totally incomplete "free" 60 
  page> > lit.... at> > > > any> > > 
  >   > > > time there are at least 20 or so that come 
  in> > tomorrow. So> > > > which> > > 
  >   > > > ones do you use? Rather than take the 
  standard> > approach of> > > > here> > 
  > >   > are> > > >   > > 
  > the lines .....let get overwhelmed with stuff that is> > > 
  > useless.....> > > >   > > >> 
  > > >   > > > I will focus upon about 3 kinds of 
  sand bars and a marker.> > > >   > > > I 
  did something similar in Vienna seminars and the sucess> > > > 
  rate of> > > >   > > > the students over a 
  long time period was very high.> > > >   > > 
  >> > > >   > > > Focus upon the chicken 
  ( the end result.. you> > really want )> > > > not 
  on> > > >   > > > the eggs.> > 
  > >   > > >> > > >   > 
  > > We look for 4 things...> > > >   > > 
  >> > > >   > > > 1) sand bars (support 
  and resistance lines) where prices> > > > stop for> 
  > > >   > a> > > >   > > 
  > bar or 2 and then go through> > > >   > > 
  >> > > >   > > > 2) sand bars where 
  prices go through and then go> > back to it to> > > 
  >   > touch> > > >   > > > 
  it before continuing in the proper direction> > > 
  >   > > >> > > >   > > 
  > (the above are very handy for adding on positions> > or 
  getting> > > > in> > > >   > 
  with> > > >   > > > definable risk....the 
  other side of the sand bar line)> > > >   > > 
  >> > > >   > > > 3) and finally sand 
  bars that are likely to produce a> > > > tradeable> 
  > > >   > > > pivot ....like i pointed out on 
  thursday in an> > email I sent> > > > out.> 
  > > >   > > >> > > >   
  > > > 4) and then how to find markers (probable future> > 
  pivot points)> > > >   > > >> > 
  > >   > > > Now instead of learning how to draw all 
  of those> > silly lines> > > > you> > > 
  >   > > > learned how to draw lines that produced the 
  above> > > > .......wouldn't> > > 
  >   > > > Andrews really work .....and very easily at 
  that?> > > >   > > >> > > 
  >   > > > Oh by the way did you ever learn what the 
  Andrews> > "ROS" line> > > > was?> > > 
  >   > > > Hint....its a sand bar.> > > 
  >   > > >> > > >   > > 
  >> > > >   > > > Regards> > 
  > >   > > > R> > > >   > 
  > >> > > >   > > >> > > 
  >   > > >> > > >   > > 
  > --- In realtraders@x..., Infernal Elk 
  <infernalelk@x...>> > > 
  > wrote:> > > >   > > > >> 
  > > >   > > > > >>  John either you 
  are blind or you faded the forecast.> > > >   > 
  > > > >>  ...or does north mean go short to you?> 
  > > >   > > > >> > > 
  >   > > > > >>  R> > > 
  >   > > > >> > > >   > 
  > > > maybe if you spoke in market terms rather than cryptic> 
  > > > pseudo-> > > >   > > > 
  poetic> > > >   > > > > "nautical" 
  terms, people would understand you.> > > >   > 
  > > >> > > >   > > > > if your 
  desire is to communicate, then do so> > CLEARLY.  if> 
  > > > your> > > >   > > > 
  desire> > > >   > > > > is to tease and 
  to draw people in to buy your product> > > > you'll do> 
  > > >   > > > better> > > 
  >   > > > > to speak clearly as well.> > 
  > >   > > > >> > > >   
  > > > > we're not sailors.  we're traders.> > > 
  >   > > > >> > > >   > 
  > > > - *lk> > > >   > > >> 
  > > >   > > >> > > >   
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