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David:
He also sells it at his website.
Bill
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wavemechanic
To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:18
AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record
David:
The original is probably not
available new, but the one co-authored with Hall "Mastering Elliot Wave:
Presenting the Neely Method: The First Scientific, Objective Approach to
Market Forecasting with the Elliott Wave Theory" is available from several
sources.
Bill
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<A title=davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx">David Jennings
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 8:44
AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record
I find your tone irritating however, see the
attached!----- Original Message -----From: "Adrian Pitt" <<A
href="mailto:apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx">apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:04 PMSubject: RE: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record> David,>> It's a shame, but you should
almost never believe what someone tells you> unless you can confirm
it for yourself or they can define on what basis> they make their
statement.>> The first place I looked for the
book....AMAZON...and where else would> you go as a first guess?..its
says its ships in 8-14 days...no mention> of being out of print or
out of stock. There are also copies second>
hand.>> I hope you research your trades better
:-)>> Adrian>> > -----Original
Message-----> > From: David Jennings
[mailto:davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> > Sent: Thursday, 11 July
2002 8:28 PM> > To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> >>
>> > Out of print I'm told. Looks like I'll have to stick to
Miner.> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Adrian
Pitt" <<A
href="mailto:apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx">apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >
To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:18 AM> > Subject: RE: [RT]
Re: forecasting-track record> >> >> > >
Earl,> > >> > > Miners work is good, but his EW is
fairly simplistic, but> > he does put> > > it into a
form that can be used by traders. If anyone> > truly wants
to> > > understand markets better and apply Elliott Wave in a
far more> > > accurate and scientific way there is ONLY ONE
SOURCE of good> > > information. and that's Glen Neely's
book. I STRONGLY WARN readers> > > though not to
bother> > > With it unless EWT really takes your
interest. It's a big book and> > > EVERY PAGE>
> > has critical information on it, so lots of learning and>
> practicing. But> > > it> > > works,
impeccably. Its not a book about trading though,> > only
accurate> > > wave> > > reading.> >
>> > > Adrian> > >> > > >
-----Original Message-----> > > > From: Earl Adamy
[mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx]> > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 July
2002 1:46 AM> > > > To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> >
> >> > > >> > > > I think you make two
valid points: know how to do the counts> > > > yourself and
be able to control/apply your own counts> > when you don't>
> > > like the automated counts. I highly recommend the simplified
EW> > > > approach used by Robert Miner in his Dynamic
Trader book> > ($100 with> > > > full money back
guarantee at> > > > <A
href="http://www.dynamictraders.com">www.dynamictraders.com) ... I don't
use the DT3 software. I'm not> > > > familiar with EW3 (I
did have WinWaves and didn't care for it),> > > > however
AGet which I use, allows one to control counts to> > a
limited> > > > degree (short term, aggressive, regular, long
term, plus> > localize)> > > > ... as a last
resort I just turn the EW counts off and> > apply my own>
> > > labels.> > > >> > > >
Earl> > > >> > > > ----- Original Message
-----> > > > From: "wavemechanic" <<A
href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx">wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> > >
> To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:28 AM> > > >
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> > >
>> > > >> > > >> > >
> ----- Original Message -----> > >
> From: Karen Beckwith> > > > To:
<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:16 AM>
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record> > > >> > > >> > >
> Jeff:> > > > Looking for a holy
grail? Have u ever looked into the EW3> > > > (Elliott
Wave)> > > > software? I can't find anyone
who uses it, but it> > sounds awfully> > > >
good.> > > > Anyone here familiar w/
EW3?> > > >> > > > I have not
used EWII but did use the previous version WinWaves,> > > >
and EWII is supposed to have a better analysis engine.> > However,
a> > > > couple of thoughts. What is the correct
count? There are many> > > > counts and in the last
analysis the only one that is> > right is yours.> > >
> So being able to do your own count is important, and the> >
software is> > > > a tool to increase your efficiency and,
perhaps, help you over the> > > > rough spots. Having
said that, one important feature that I> > > > would be sure
to have is the ability to input my count and> > > > see how
it plays. Most EW programs do not have this option,> > >
> but if I recall correctly ELWave does. FWIW.> > >
>> > > > best wishes,> > >
> karen> > > > ps - May the force
be with you.> > > > :>)> > >
> :>)> > > >> > >
> ----- Original Message -----> > >
> From: "jeff97_98_1998" <<A
href="mailto:jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx">jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx>> >
> > To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM> >
> > Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record>
> > >> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > "If one tries to fight these
forces they will be> > destroyed. If one> > >
> > can unite and redirect these forces to> >
> > > ones advantage, one should be able to progress
quite swiftly."> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > > Sounds like a
re-run of Kung Fu.> > > > > Grasshopper, my
son, be of unity with the universe.> > > > >
Now catch this fly in my soup.> > > >
>> > > > > Please enlighten me, how does
one unite and redirect these> > > > forces to> >
> > > ones advantage?> > >
> >> > > > > How do I
redirect a drought in the midwest, terrorist attack> > > >
crashing> > > > > the S & P , lumber
import regulations vs. canadian exports?> > > >
>> > > > > Fundamentals, schmundamentals,
blah, blah.> > > > >> > >
> > I have the force, the unity, the polarity...>
> > > >> > > > > Beam
me up Scotty, for I have discovered how markets> > >
> > work, yet I waste my time trolling for
fish.> > > > > Why is that?> > >
> >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >>
> > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
> > --- In <A
href="mailto:realtraders@x">realtraders@x..., "Norman Winski" <<A
href="mailto:nwinski@x">nwinski@x...> wrote:> > >
> > > Reinar,> > > > >
>> > > > > > From one
sailor to another, when one's sailboat hits> > > > a sand
bar,> > > > > that's> > >
> > > called running a ground and that's not a good
thing.> > > > > >> > >
> > > I know it's time for me to take a vacation.
Your sailing> > > > metaphor> > >
> > is> > > > > >
starting to make sense to me.<G> Seriously, I agree that>
> > > sailing> > > > > is a
good> > > > > > analogy for trading, but
not for the reasons you> > have stated. I> > >
> > think> > > > > >
sailing is a good analogy for trading because in order to be> >
> > > successful, one> > >
> > > must join with the huge natural forces at
work. If> > one tries to> > > >
> fight these> > > > > > forces they
will be destroyed. If one can unite and> > redirect> >
> > these> > > > > forces to>
> > > > > ones advantage, one should be able to
progress> > quite swiftly.> > > > >
>> > > > > > Gann fans - the
ideal position to attain maximum> > speed is to> > >
> have> > > > > the sail> > >
> > > at a 45 degree angle to the wind.> >
> > > >> > > > > >
Nautically,> > > > > >> > >
> > > Norman> > > > >
>> > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > >
----- Original Message -----> > > > > >
From: "reinar2020" <<A
href="mailto:reinar2020@x">reinar2020@x...>> > >
> > > To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@x">realtraders@x...>> > >
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM> >
> > > > Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track
record> > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >
Elk> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > Not only will I continue to use sailing as
a> > metaphor but I> > > > will> > >
> > > > expand the use. There are several reasons.
Selling to "the> > > > > traders">
> > > > > > market is too limiting and more
imortant.... If> > you can think> > >
> > like a> > > > > >
> sailor you can think like a profitable trader......> > >
> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > If you have ever been
sailing you would know that> > it is kind> > > >
of a> > > > > > > zen like experience
where you have a very specific focus.> > > > All the>
> > > > BS> > > > >
> > that is provided by the media etc is gone.> > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> There are other advantages. Any monkey can draw> > an
Andrews> > > > line> > > > >
and> > > > > > > if you read his
totally incomplete "free" 60 page> > lit.... at> > >
> any> > > > > > > time there are at
least 20 or so that come in> > tomorrow. So> > > >
which> > > > > > > ones do you use?
Rather than take the standard> > approach of> > >
> here> > > > > are> > >
> > > > the lines .....let get overwhelmed with
stuff that is> > > > useless.....> > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> I will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and a marker.> >
> > > > > I did something similar in Vienna
seminars and the sucess> > > > rate of> > >
> > > > the students over a long time period was
very high.> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > Focus upon the chicken ( the end
result.. you> > really want )> > > > not
on> > > > > > > the eggs.> >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > We look for 4 things...> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > 1) sand bars
(support and resistance lines) where prices> > > > stop
for> > > > > a> > >
> > > > bar or 2 and then go through> >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > 2) sand bars where prices go through and then go> > back
to it to> > > > > touch> > >
> > > > it before continuing in the proper
direction> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > (the above are very handy for adding on
positions> > or getting> > > > in> >
> > > with> > > > > >
> definable risk....the other side of the sand bar line)> >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > 3) and finally sand bars that are likely to produce a> >
> > tradeable> > > > > > > pivot
....like i pointed out on thursday in an> > email I sent>
> > > out.> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 4) and then how to
find markers (probable future> > pivot points)> > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> Now instead of learning how to draw all of those> > silly
lines> > > > you> > > > >
> > learned how to draw lines that produced the above> >
> > .......wouldn't> > > > > > >
Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?> > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> Oh by the way did you ever learn what the Andrews> > "ROS"
line> > > > was?> > > > >
> > Hint....its a sand bar.> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > Regards> > >
> > > > R> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > --- In realtraders@x...,
Infernal Elk <<A
href="mailto:infernalelk@x">infernalelk@x...>> > > >
wrote:> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> John either you are
blind or you faded the forecast.> > > > >
> > > >> ...or does north mean go short to you?>
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> R> > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > maybe if you spoke in market terms rather than
cryptic> > > > pseudo-> > > >
> > > poetic> > > > > > > >
"nautical" terms, people would understand you.> > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > if your desire is to communicate, then do so> >
CLEARLY. if> > > > your> > >
> > > > desire> > > >
> > > > is to tease and to draw people in to buy your
product> > > > you'll do> > > >
> > > better> > > > > > > >
to speak clearly as well.> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > we're not
sailors. we're traders.> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > -
*lk> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > >
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