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David:
 
He also sells it at his website.
 
Bill
 
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  wavemechanic 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:18 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track 
  record
  
  David:
   
  The original is probably not 
  available new, but the one co-authored with Hall "Mastering Elliot Wave: 
  Presenting the Neely Method: The First Scientific, Objective Approach to 
  Market Forecasting with the Elliott Wave Theory" is available from several 
  sources.
   
  Bill
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    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
    <A title=davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="mailto:davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>David Jennings 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 8:44 
    AM
    Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track 
    record
    I find your tone irritating however, see the 
    attached!----- Original Message -----From: "Adrian Pitt" <<A 
    href="mailto:apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: 
    Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:04 PMSubject: RE: [RT] Re: forecasting-track 
    record> David,>> It's a shame, but you should 
    almost never believe what someone tells you> unless you can confirm 
    it for yourself or they can define on what basis> they make their 
    statement.>> The first place I looked for the 
    book....AMAZON...and where else would> you go as a first guess?..its 
    says its ships in 8-14 days...no mention> of being out of print or 
    out of stock.  There are also copies second> 
    hand.>> I hope you research your trades better 
    :-)>> Adrian>> > -----Original 
    Message-----> > From: David Jennings 
    [mailto:davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> > Sent: Thursday, 11 July 
    2002 8:28 PM> > To: <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
    > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> >> 
    >> > Out of print I'm told. Looks like I'll have to stick to 
    Miner.> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Adrian 
    Pitt" <<A 
    href="mailto:apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > 
    To: <<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
    > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:18 AM> > Subject: RE: [RT] 
    Re: forecasting-track record> >> >> > > 
    Earl,> > >> > > Miners work is good, but his EW is 
    fairly simplistic, but> > he does put> > > it into a 
    form that can be used by traders.  If anyone> > truly wants 
    to> > > understand markets better and apply Elliott Wave in a 
    far more> > > accurate and scientific way there is ONLY ONE 
    SOURCE of good> > > information. and that's Glen Neely's 
    book.  I STRONGLY WARN readers> > > though not to 
    bother> > > With it unless EWT really takes your 
    interest.  It's a big book and> > > EVERY PAGE> 
    > > has critical information on it, so lots of learning and> 
    > practicing. But> > > it> > > works, 
    impeccably.  Its not a book about trading though,> > only 
    accurate> > > wave> > > reading.> > 
    >> > > Adrian> > >> > > > 
    -----Original Message-----> > > > From: Earl Adamy 
    [mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx]> > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 July 
    2002 1:46 AM> > > > To: <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
    > > > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> > 
    > >> > > >> > > > I think you make two 
    valid points: know how to do the counts> > > > yourself and 
    be able to control/apply your own counts> > when you don't> 
    > > > like the automated counts. I highly recommend the simplified 
    EW> > > > approach used by Robert Miner in his Dynamic 
    Trader book> > ($100 with> > > > full money back 
    guarantee at> > > > <A 
    href="http://www.dynamictraders.com";>www.dynamictraders.com) ... I don't 
    use the DT3 software. I'm not> > > > familiar with EW3 (I 
    did have WinWaves and didn't care for it),> > > > however 
    AGet which I use, allows one to control counts to> > a 
    limited> > > > degree (short term, aggressive, regular, long 
    term, plus> > localize)> > > > ... as a last 
    resort I just turn the EW counts off and> > apply my own> 
    > > > labels.> > > >> > > > 
    Earl> > > >> > > > ----- Original Message 
    -----> > > > From: "wavemechanic" <<A 
    href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > 
    > To: <<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
    > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:28 AM> > > > 
    Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> > > 
    >> > > >> > > >> > > 
    >   ----- Original Message -----> > > 
    >   From: Karen Beckwith> > > >   To: 
    <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
    > > >   Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:16 AM> 
    > > >   Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track 
    record> > > >> > > >> > > 
    >   Jeff:> > > >   Looking for a holy 
    grail?  Have u ever looked into the EW3> > > > (Elliott 
    Wave)> > > >   software?  I can't find anyone 
    who uses it, but it> > sounds awfully> > > > 
    good.> > > >   Anyone here familiar w/ 
    EW3?> > > >> > > >   I have not 
    used EWII but did use the previous version WinWaves,> > > > 
    and EWII is supposed to have a better analysis engine.> > However, 
    a> > > > couple of thoughts.  What is the correct 
    count?  There are many> > > > counts and in the last 
    analysis the only one that is> > right is yours.> > > 
    > So being able to do your own count is important, and the> > 
    software is> > > > a tool to increase your efficiency and, 
    perhaps, help you over the> > > > rough spots.  Having 
    said that, one important feature that I> > > > would be sure 
    to have is the ability to input my count and> > > > see how 
    it plays.  Most EW programs do not have this option,> > > 
    > but if I recall correctly ELWave does.  FWIW.> > > 
    >> > > >   best wishes,> > > 
    >   karen> > > >   ps - May the force 
    be with you.> > > >   :>)> > > 
    >   :>)> > > >> > > 
    >   ----- Original Message -----> > > 
    >   From: "jeff97_98_1998" <<A 
    href="mailto:jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx>> > 
    > >   To: <<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
    > > >   Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM> > 
    > >   Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> 
    > > >> > > >> > > >   
    >> > > >   > "If one tries to fight these 
    forces they will be> > destroyed. If one> > > 
    >   > can unite and redirect these forces to> > 
    > >   > ones advantage, one should be able to progress 
    quite swiftly."> > > >   >> > > 
    >   >> > > >   > Sounds like a 
    re-run of Kung Fu.> > > >   > Grasshopper, my 
    son, be of unity with the universe.> > > >   > 
    Now catch this fly in my soup.> > > >   
    >> > > >   > Please enlighten me, how does 
    one unite and redirect these> > > > forces to> > 
    > >   > ones advantage?> > > 
    >   >> > > >   > How do I 
    redirect a drought in the midwest, terrorist attack> > > > 
    crashing> > > >   > the S & P , lumber 
    import regulations vs. canadian exports?> > > >   
    >> > > >   > Fundamentals, schmundamentals, 
    blah, blah.> > > >   >> > > 
    >   > I have the force, the unity, the polarity...> 
    > > >   >> > > >   > Beam 
    me up Scotty,  for I have discovered how markets> > > 
    >   > work,  yet I waste my time trolling for 
    fish.> > > >   > Why is that?> > > 
    >   >> > > >   >> > 
    > >   >> > > >   >> 
    > > >   >> > > >   
    >> > > >   >> > > 
    >   > --- In <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x..., "Norman Winski" <<A 
    href="mailto:nwinski@x";>nwinski@x...> wrote:> > > 
    >   > > Reinar,> > > >   > 
    >> > > >   > >   From one 
    sailor to another, when one's sailboat hits> > > > a sand 
    bar,> > > >   > that's> > > 
    >   > > called running a ground and that's not a good 
    thing.> > > >   > >> > > 
    >   > >  I know it's time for me to take a vacation. 
    Your sailing> > > > metaphor> > > 
    >   > is> > > >   > > 
    starting to make sense to me.<G>  Seriously, I agree that> 
    > > > sailing> > > >   > is a 
    good> > > >   > > analogy for trading, but 
    not for the reasons you> > have stated. I> > > 
    >   > think> > > >   > > 
    sailing is a good analogy for trading because in order to be> > 
    > >   > successful, one> > > 
    >   > > must join with the huge natural forces at 
    work.  If> > one tries to> > > >   
    > fight these> > > >   > > forces they 
    will be destroyed. If one can unite and> > redirect> > 
    > > these> > > >   > forces to> 
    > > >   > > ones advantage, one should be able to 
    progress> > quite swiftly.> > > >   > 
    >> > > >   > >  Gann fans - the 
    ideal position to attain maximum> > speed is to> > > 
    > have> > > >   > the sail> > > 
    >   > > at a 45 degree angle to the wind.> > 
    > >   > >> > > >   > > 
    Nautically,> > > >   > >> > > 
    >   > > Norman> > > >   > 
    >> > > >   > >> > > 
    >   > >> > > >   > > 
    ----- Original Message -----> > > >   > > 
    From: "reinar2020" <<A 
    href="mailto:reinar2020@x";>reinar2020@x...>> > > 
    >   > > To: <<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x...>> > > 
    >   > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM> > 
    > >   > > Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track 
    record> > > >   > >> > > 
    >   > >> > > >   > > > 
    Elk> > > >   > > >> > > 
    >   > > > Not only will I continue to use sailing as 
    a> > metaphor but I> > > > will> > > 
    >   > > > expand the use. There are several reasons. 
    Selling to "the> > > >   > traders"> 
    > > >   > > > market is too limiting and more 
    imortant.... If> > you can think> > > 
    >   > like a> > > >   > > 
    > sailor you can think like a profitable trader......> > > 
    >   > > >> > > >   > > 
    >> > > >   > > > If you have ever been 
    sailing you would know that> > it is kind> > > > 
    of a> > > >   > > > zen like experience 
    where you have a very specific focus.> > > > All the> 
    > > >   > BS> > > >   > 
    > > that is provided by the media etc is gone.> > > 
    >   > > >> > > >   > > 
    > There are other advantages. Any monkey can draw> > an 
    Andrews> > > > line> > > >   > 
    and> > > >   > > > if you read his 
    totally incomplete "free" 60 page> > lit.... at> > > 
    > any> > > >   > > > time there are at 
    least 20 or so that come in> > tomorrow. So> > > > 
    which> > > >   > > > ones do you use? 
    Rather than take the standard> > approach of> > > 
    > here> > > >   > are> > > 
    >   > > > the lines .....let get overwhelmed with 
    stuff that is> > > > useless.....> > > 
    >   > > >> > > >   > > 
    > I will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and a marker.> > 
    > >   > > > I did something similar in Vienna 
    seminars and the sucess> > > > rate of> > > 
    >   > > > the students over a long time period was 
    very high.> > > >   > > >> > 
    > >   > > > Focus upon the chicken ( the end 
    result.. you> > really want )> > > > not 
    on> > > >   > > > the eggs.> > 
    > >   > > >> > > >   > 
    > > We look for 4 things...> > > >   > 
    > >> > > >   > > > 1) sand bars 
    (support and resistance lines) where prices> > > > stop 
    for> > > >   > a> > > 
    >   > > > bar or 2 and then go through> > 
    > >   > > >> > > >   > 
    > > 2) sand bars where prices go through and then go> > back 
    to it to> > > >   > touch> > > 
    >   > > > it before continuing in the proper 
    direction> > > >   > > >> > 
    > >   > > > (the above are very handy for adding on 
    positions> > or getting> > > > in> > 
    > >   > with> > > >   > > 
    > definable risk....the other side of the sand bar line)> > 
    > >   > > >> > > >   > 
    > > 3) and finally sand bars that are likely to produce a> > 
    > > tradeable> > > >   > > > pivot 
    ....like i pointed out on thursday in an> > email I sent> 
    > > > out.> > > >   > > 
    >> > > >   > > > 4) and then how to 
    find markers (probable future> > pivot points)> > > 
    >   > > >> > > >   > > 
    > Now instead of learning how to draw all of those> > silly 
    lines> > > > you> > > >   > 
    > > learned how to draw lines that produced the above> > 
    > > .......wouldn't> > > >   > > > 
    Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?> > > 
    >   > > >> > > >   > > 
    > Oh by the way did you ever learn what the Andrews> > "ROS" 
    line> > > > was?> > > >   > 
    > > Hint....its a sand bar.> > > >   > 
    > >> > > >   > > >> > 
    > >   > > > Regards> > > 
    >   > > > R> > > >   > 
    > >> > > >   > > >> > 
    > >   > > >> > > >   > 
    > > --- In realtraders@x..., 
    Infernal Elk <<A 
    href="mailto:infernalelk@x";>infernalelk@x...>> > > > 
    wrote:> > > >   > > > >> > 
    > >   > > > > >>  John either you are 
    blind or you faded the forecast.> > > >   > 
    > > > >>  ...or does north mean go short to you?> 
    > > >   > > > >> > > 
    >   > > > > >>  R> > > 
    >   > > > >> > > >   > 
    > > > maybe if you spoke in market terms rather than 
    cryptic> > > > pseudo-> > > >   
    > > > poetic> > > >   > > > > 
    "nautical" terms, people would understand you.> > > 
    >   > > > >> > > >   > 
    > > > if your desire is to communicate, then do so> > 
    CLEARLY.  if> > > > your> > > 
    >   > > > desire> > > >   
    > > > > is to tease and to draw people in to buy your 
    product> > > > you'll do> > > >   
    > > > better> > > >   > > > > 
    to speak clearly as well.> > > >   > > > 
    >> > > >   > > > > we're not 
    sailors.  we're traders.> > > >   > > 
    > >> > > >   > > > > - 
    *lk> > > >   > > >> > > 
    >   > > >> > > >   > > 
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