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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
<A title=davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>David Jennings
To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:28
AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record
Out of print I'm told. Looks like I'll have to stick to Miner.
You are in luck. It is readily
available from a variety of sources (Amazon, Traders Library,
etc.).
----- Original Message
-----From: "Adrian Pitt" <<A
href="mailto:apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:18 AMSubject: RE: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record> Earl,>> Miners work is good, but his EW
is fairly simplistic, but he does> put it into a form that can be used
by traders. If anyone truly wants> to understand markets better
and apply Elliott Wave in a far more> accurate and scientific way there
is ONLY ONE SOURCE of good> information.> and that's Glen
Neely's book. I STRONGLY WARN readers though not to>
bother> With it unless EWT really takes your interest. It's a big
book and> EVERY PAGE> has critical information on it, so lots of
learning and practicing. But> it> works, impeccably. Its
not a book about trading though, only accurate> wave>
reading.>> Adrian>> > -----Original
Message-----> > From: Earl Adamy [mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx]>
> Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2002 1:46 AM> > To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> >>
>> > I think you make two valid points: know how to do the
counts> > yourself and be able to control/apply your own counts
when> > you don't like the automated counts. I highly recommend
the> > simplified EW approach used by Robert Miner in his
Dynamic> > Trader book ($100 with full money back guarantee
at> > <A
href="http://www.dynamictraders.com";>www.dynamictraders.com) ... I don't
use the DT3 software. I'm> > not familiar with EW3 (I did have
WinWaves and didn't care> > for it), however AGet which I use,
allows one to control> > counts to a limited degree (short term,
aggressive, regular,> > long term, plus localize) ... as a last
resort I just turn> > the EW counts off and apply my own
labels.> >> > Earl> >> > -----
Original Message -----> > From: "wavemechanic" <<A
href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> > To:
<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:28 AM> > Subject: Re: [RT] Re:
forecasting-track record> >> >> >>
> ----- Original Message -----> > From:
Karen Beckwith> > To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:16 AM>
> Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record>
>> >> > Jeff:> >
Looking for a holy grail? Have u ever looked into the EW3> >
(Elliott Wave)> > software? I can't find anyone
who uses it, but it sounds> > awfully good.> >
Anyone here familiar w/ EW3?> >> > I have not
used EWII but did use the previous version> > WinWaves, and EWII is
supposed to have a better analysis> > engine. However, a
couple of thoughts. What is the correct> > count? There
are many counts and in the last analysis the> > only one that is
right is yours. So being able to do your> > own count is
important, and the software is a tool to> > increase your efficiency
and, perhaps, help you over the> > rough spots. Having said
that, one important feature that I> > would be sure to have is the
ability to input my count and> > see how it plays. Most EW
programs do not have this option,> > but if I recall correctly
ELWave does. FWIW.> >> > best
wishes,> > karen> > ps - May the
force be with you.> > :>)> >
:>)> >> > ----- Original Message
-----> > From: "jeff97_98_1998" <<A
href="mailto:jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM> >
Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> >> >>
> >> > > "If one tries to fight
these forces they will be destroyed. If one> > > can
unite and redirect these forces to> > > ones
advantage, one should be able to progress quite swiftly.">
> >> > >> >
> Sounds like a re-run of Kung Fu.> > >
Grasshopper, my son, be of unity with the universe.> >
> Now catch this fly in my soup.> > >>
> > Please enlighten me, how does one unite and
redirect> > these forces to> > > ones
advantage?> > >> > > How do
I redirect a drought in the midwest, terrorist> > attack
crashing> > > the S & P , lumber import
regulations vs. canadian exports?> > >>
> > Fundamentals, schmundamentals, blah, blah.>
> >> > > I have the force, the
unity, the polarity...> > >> >
> Beam me up Scotty, for I have discovered how markets>
> > work, yet I waste my time trolling for
fish.> > > Why is that?> >
>> > >> > >>
> >> > >> >
>> > >> > > --- In <A
href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x..., "Norman Winski" <<A
href="mailto:nwinski@x";>nwinski@x...> wrote:> >
> > Reinar,> > > >> >
> > From one sailor to another, when one's sailboat
hits> > a sand bar,> > > that's>
> > > called running a ground and that's not a good
thing.> > > >> > >
> I know it's time for me to take a vacation. Your> >
sailing metaphor> > > is> >
> > starting to make sense to me.<G> Seriously, I
agree> > that sailing> > > is a
good> > > > analogy for trading, but not for the
reasons you have stated. I> > > think>
> > > sailing is a good analogy for trading because in
order to be> > > successful, one>
> > > must join with the huge natural forces at
work. If one tries to> > > fight these>
> > > forces they will be destroyed. If one can unite
and> > redirect these> > > forces
to> > > > ones advantage, one should be able to
progress quite swiftly.> > > >>
> > > Gann fans - the ideal position to attain
maximum speed> > is to have> > > the
sail> > > > at a 45 degree angle to the
wind.> > > >> > > >
Nautically,> > > >> > >
> Norman> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > >
----- Original Message -----> > > > From:
"reinar2020" <reinar2020@x...>>
> > > To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x...>> >
> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM> > >
> Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track record> > >
>> > > >> > > >
> Elk> > > > >> > >
> > Not only will I continue to use sailing as a metaphor> >
but I will> > > > > expand the use. There are
several reasons. Selling to "the> > >
traders"> > > > > market is too limiting and
more imortant.... If you can think> > > like
a> > > > > sailor you can think like a
profitable trader......> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > If you
have ever been sailing you would know that it> > is kind of
a> > > > > zen like experience where you have a
very specific> > focus. All the> > >
BS> > > > > that is provided by the media etc
is gone.> > > > >> > >
> > There are other advantages. Any monkey can draw an> >
Andrews line> > > and> > >
> > if you read his totally incomplete "free" 60 page> >
lit.... at any> > > > > time there are at least
20 or so that come in> > tomorrow. So which> >
> > > ones do you use? Rather than take the standard> >
approach of here> > > are> >
> > > the lines .....let get overwhelmed with stuff that is>
> useless.....> > > > >>
> > > > I will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars
and a marker.> > > > > I did something similar
in Vienna seminars and the> > sucess rate of>
> > > > the students over a long time period was very
high.> > > > >> > >
> > Focus upon the chicken ( the end result.. you really> >
want ) not on> > > > > the eggs.>
> > > >> > > > > We
look for 4 things...> > > > >>
> > > > 1) sand bars (support and resistance lines)
where> > prices stop for> > > a>
> > > > bar or 2 and then go through>
> > > >> > > > > 2)
sand bars where prices go through and then go back to it to>
> > touch> > > > > it before
continuing in the proper direction> > > >
>> > > > > (the above are very handy for
adding on positions or> > getting in> > >
with> > > > > definable risk....the other side
of the sand bar line)> > > > >>
> > > > 3) and finally sand bars that are likely to
produce a> > tradeable> > > > > pivot
....like i pointed out on thursday in an email> > I sent
out.> > > > >> > >
> > 4) and then how to find markers (probable future pivot
points)> > > > >> > >
> > Now instead of learning how to draw all of those> > silly
lines you> > > > > learned how to draw lines
that produced the above> > .......wouldn't> >
> > > Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?>
> > > >> > > > > Oh by
the way did you ever learn what the Andrews> > "ROS" line
was?> > > > > Hint....its a sand bar.>
> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > Regards> >
> > > R> > > > >>
> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > --- In <A
href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x..., Infernal Elk> >
<infernalelk@x...> wrote:>
> > > > >> > > > >
> >> John either you are blind or you faded the
forecast.> > > > > > >> ...or
does north mean go short to you?> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> R>
> > > > >> > > > >
> maybe if you spoke in market terms rather than> > cryptic
pseudo-> > > > > poetic>
> > > > > "nautical" terms, people would understand
you.> > > > > >> >
> > > > if your desire is to communicate, then do so> >
CLEARLY. if your> > > > > desire>
> > > > > is to tease and to draw people in to buy
your> > product you'll do> > > > >
better> > > > > > to speak clearly as
well.> > > > > >> >
> > > > we're not sailors. we're traders.>
> > > > >> > > > >
> - *lk> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >>
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