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[mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2002 11:08
PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] Re:
forecasting-track record
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
<A title=davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>David Jennings
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:28
AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record
Out of print I'm told. Looks like I'll have to stick to Miner.
You are in luck. It is readily
available from a variety of sources (Amazon, Traders Library,
etc.).
----- Original Message
-----From: "Adrian Pitt" <<A
href="mailto:apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>apitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:18 AMSubject: RE: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record> Earl,>> Miners work is good, but his EW
is fairly simplistic, but he does> put it into a form that can be
used by traders. If anyone truly wants> to understand markets
better and apply Elliott Wave in a far more> accurate and scientific
way there is ONLY ONE SOURCE of good> information.> and that's
Glen Neely's book. I STRONGLY WARN readers though not to>
bother> With it unless EWT really takes your interest. It's a
big book and> EVERY PAGE> has critical information on it, so
lots of learning and practicing. But> it> works,
impeccably. Its not a book about trading though, only accurate>
wave> reading.>> Adrian>> >
-----Original Message-----> > From: Earl Adamy
[mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx]> > Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2002 1:46
AM> > To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record> >>
>> > I think you make two valid points: know how to do the
counts> > yourself and be able to control/apply your own counts
when> > you don't like the automated counts. I highly recommend
the> > simplified EW approach used by Robert Miner in his
Dynamic> > Trader book ($100 with full money back guarantee
at> > <A
href="http://www.dynamictraders.com";>www.dynamictraders.com) ... I don't
use the DT3 software. I'm> > not familiar with EW3 (I did have
WinWaves and didn't care> > for it), however AGet which I use,
allows one to control> > counts to a limited degree (short term,
aggressive, regular,> > long term, plus localize) ... as a last
resort I just turn> > the EW counts off and apply my own
labels.> >> > Earl> >> > -----
Original Message -----> > From: "wavemechanic" <<A
href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> > To:
<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:28 AM> > Subject: Re: [RT]
Re: forecasting-track record> >> >> >>
> ----- Original Message -----> > From:
Karen Beckwith> > To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:16 AM>
> Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record>
>> >> > Jeff:> >
Looking for a holy grail? Have u ever looked into the EW3> >
(Elliott Wave)> > software? I can't find anyone
who uses it, but it sounds> > awfully good.>
> Anyone here familiar w/ EW3?> >>
> I have not used EWII but did use the previous
version> > WinWaves, and EWII is supposed to have a better
analysis> > engine. However, a couple of thoughts.
What is the correct> > count? There are many counts and in
the last analysis the> > only one that is right is yours. So
being able to do your> > own count is important, and the software
is a tool to> > increase your efficiency and, perhaps, help you
over the> > rough spots. Having said that, one important
feature that I> > would be sure to have is the ability to input my
count and> > see how it plays. Most EW programs do not have
this option,> > but if I recall correctly ELWave does.
FWIW.> >> > best wishes,>
> karen> > ps - May the force be with
you.> > :>)> > :>)>
>> > ----- Original Message ----->
> From: "jeff97_98_1998" <<A
href="mailto:jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM>
> Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record>
>> >> > >> >
> "If one tries to fight these forces they will be destroyed. If
one> > > can unite and redirect these forces
to> > > ones advantage, one should be able to
progress quite swiftly."> > >>
> >> > > Sounds like a re-run of
Kung Fu.> > > Grasshopper, my son, be of unity with
the universe.> > > Now catch this fly in my
soup.> > >> > > Please
enlighten me, how does one unite and redirect> > these forces
to> > > ones advantage?> >
>> > > How do I redirect a drought in the
midwest, terrorist> > attack crashing> >
> the S & P , lumber import regulations vs. canadian exports?>
> >> > > Fundamentals,
schmundamentals, blah, blah.> > >>
> > I have the force, the unity, the polarity...>
> >> > > Beam me up Scotty,
for I have discovered how markets> > > work,
yet I waste my time trolling for fish.> > > Why is
that?> > >> > >>
> >> > >> >
>> > >> > >>
> > --- In <A
href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x..., "Norman Winski" <<A
href="mailto:nwinski@x";>nwinski@x...> wrote:> >
> > Reinar,> > > >>
> > > From one sailor to another, when
one's sailboat hits> > a sand bar,> > >
that's> > > > called running a ground and that's
not a good thing.> > > >>
> > > I know it's time for me to take a vacation.
Your> > sailing metaphor> > > is>
> > > starting to make sense to me.<G>
Seriously, I agree> > that sailing> > >
is a good> > > > analogy for trading, but not
for the reasons you have stated. I> > >
think> > > > sailing is a good analogy for
trading because in order to be> > > successful,
one> > > > must join with the huge natural
forces at work. If one tries to> > > fight
these> > > > forces they will be destroyed. If
one can unite and> > redirect these> > >
forces to> > > > ones advantage, one should be
able to progress quite swiftly.> > > >>
> > > Gann fans - the ideal position to attain
maximum speed> > is to have> > > the
sail> > > > at a 45 degree angle to the
wind.> > > >> > > >
Nautically,> > > >> > >
> Norman> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > >
----- Original Message -----> > > > From:
"reinar2020" <<A
href="mailto:reinar2020@x";>reinar2020@x...>> >
> > To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x...>>
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM>
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track
record> > > >> > >
>> > > > > Elk> >
> > >> > > > > Not only will I
continue to use sailing as a metaphor> > but I will>
> > > > expand the use. There are several reasons.
Selling to "the> > > traders">
> > > > market is too limiting and more imortant....
If you can think> > > like a>
> > > > sailor you can think like a profitable
trader......> > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > If
you have ever been sailing you would know that it> > is kind of
a> > > > > zen like experience where you have
a very specific> > focus. All the> > >
BS> > > > > that is provided by the media etc
is gone.> > > > >> >
> > > There are other advantages. Any monkey can draw an>
> Andrews line> > > and> >
> > > if you read his totally incomplete "free" 60 page>
> lit.... at any> > > > > time there are
at least 20 or so that come in> > tomorrow. So which>
> > > > ones do you use? Rather than take the
standard> > approach of here> > >
are> > > > > the lines .....let get
overwhelmed with stuff that is> > useless.....>
> > > >> > > > > I
will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and a marker.>
> > > > I did something similar in Vienna seminars
and the> > sucess rate of> > > > >
the students over a long time period was very high.> >
> > >> > > > > Focus upon the
chicken ( the end result.. you really> > want ) not on>
> > > > the eggs.> > > >
>> > > > > We look for 4 things...>
> > > >> > > > > 1)
sand bars (support and resistance lines) where> > prices stop
for> > > a> > > > >
bar or 2 and then go through> > > > >>
> > > > 2) sand bars where prices go through and
then go back to it to> > > touch>
> > > > it before continuing in the proper
direction> > > > >> >
> > > (the above are very handy for adding on positions or>
> getting in> > > with> >
> > > definable risk....the other side of the sand bar
line)> > > > >> > >
> > 3) and finally sand bars that are likely to produce a> >
tradeable> > > > > pivot ....like i pointed
out on thursday in an email> > I sent out.>
> > > >> > > > > 4)
and then how to find markers (probable future pivot points)>
> > > >> > > > > Now
instead of learning how to draw all of those> > silly lines
you> > > > > learned how to draw lines that
produced the above> > .......wouldn't> >
> > > Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?>
> > > >> > > > > Oh
by the way did you ever learn what the Andrews> > "ROS" line
was?> > > > > Hint....its a sand bar.>
> > > >> > > >
>> > > > > Regards>
> > > > R> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > > --- In <A
href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x..., Infernal Elk> >
<infernalelk@x...> wrote:>
> > > > >> > > > >
> >> John either you are blind or you faded the
forecast.> > > > > > >> ...or
does north mean go short to you?> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> R>
> > > > >> > > > >
> maybe if you spoke in market terms rather than> > cryptic
pseudo-> > > > > poetic>
> > > > > "nautical" terms, people would
understand you.> > > > > >>
> > > > > if your desire is to communicate, then
do so> > CLEARLY. if your> > > >
> desire> > > > > > is to tease and to
draw people in to buy your> > product you'll do>
> > > > better> > > >
> > to speak clearly as well.> > > > >
>> > > > > > we're not sailors.
we're traders.> > > > > >>
> > > > > - *lk> > >
> >> > > > >> >
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