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Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test



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Earl:
 
My preferred target is 1307 on 6/24.  If that 
occurs than a bearish Gartley will have formed, suggesting some serious downside 
action.
 
Bill
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
  Earl Adamy 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:45 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading 
  Test
  I'm still working with the weekly ABC projection SP futures 
  chart I postedin October. When the SP put in the 1073 low, I was able to 
  refine my W.Ctarget to a range of 1222-1331 which I expected to be reached 
  in April.Thus, I've been expecting a rally for some weeks now, however so 
  far it hasnot been ready to move. What I am observing is a constant and 
  violentrotation under the hood of a very low VIX and oscillating breadth. 
  OnMonday, the ND rallied strongly while the SP lagged badly. Today, 
  NDdeclined strongly while the SP put in a flag and then refused to break. 
  Thisalternation has been occurring rather frequently which is indicative 
  of achurning market which is difficult for traders and hazardous to 
  investors.I'm not sure when this will end, however positive seasonality 
  ends at theend of this month. My best guess is that the SP will undergo a 
  sharp declinewithin a few days and then commence the expected 
  rally.Earl----- Original Message -----From: "Bob Heisler" 
  <BHEISLER@xxxxxxxxx>To: 
  <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: 
  Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:29 PMSubject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading 
  Test> I was looking for the same thing Earl.  I thought we 
  had something whenthe> ND broke and held 1430ish, but while the ND 
  crept lower the Dow crepthigher> trapping the S&P inside a 6 
  point range...ugh.  It would sure be nice to> have a day(s) when 
  the DJ/ND are in sync instead of divergent the majority> of the 
  time.  Looks like we need the Dow to surrender the 260 area to 
  get> through 1134 which should liven things up a bit.  In the 
  interim I hope> bonds continue to move the way they have been.  
  What a pleasure it was to> trade them again today.>> 
  Bob>> ----- Original Message -----> From: "Earl Adamy" 
  <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>> To: 
  <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:59 AM> Subject: Re: [RT] Time and 
  Motion Trading Test>>> > I submit that this morning's 
  trading is nothing more than a bear flag> > setting up within the 
  bounds of 38% retracement of the decline ... this> > suggests that 
  1134 is unlikely to hold.> >> > Earl> >> 
  > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "BobR" <<A 
  href="mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
  > To: <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
  > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:55 AM> > Subject: Re: [RT] Time 
  and Motion Trading Test> >> >> > > Classical 
  MP theory says we are in for a range bound day defined by> 
  1144.1> > > and 1134.30 because the open was within Monday's 
  value area.  So farthe> > > first 3 half hour brackets 
  are pretty much hanging onto Monday's value> > area> > 
  > pivot of 1139.2.  So, its for S/R trading within vah and val until 
  a> close> > > and open outside that area.> > 
  >> > > bobr> > >> > > ----- Original 
  Message -----> > > From: "BobR" <<A 
  href="mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
  > > To: <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
  > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:43 AM> > > Subject: Re: 
  [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test> > >> > >> 
  > > > The system trade here is a break above the first hour high at 
  1141.5> and> > > > since the day's range is so narrow 
  so far compared to the average,> John> > > > might 
  easily get the 4 points to take it from the current four tothe> 
  > > > average of 9.29.> > > >> > > > 
  bobr> > > >> > > > ----- Original Message 
  -----> > > > From: "John Cappello" <<A 
  href="mailto:jvc689@xxxxxxx";>jvc689@xxxxxxx>> > > > To: 
  "Ira Tunik" <irat@xxxxxxxxx>; <<A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
  > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:29 AM> > > > 
  Subject: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test> > > >> > 
  > >> > > > > Dear Ira,> > > > 
  >> > > > > I am using EST . The cash S&P at 10 AM 
  was -7.4 and at 10:15 was -> > > > > 7.14, maybe a buy 
  signal in raw state. I am looking initially at a4> > > > 
  > pt stop and 11:15 AM exit.> > > > >> > > 
  > > Sincerely,> > > > >> > > > > 
  John> > > > >> > > > >> > > 
  > >> > > > > ------------------ Reply Separator 
  --------------------> > > > > Originally From: Ira Tunik 
  <irat@xxxxxxxxx>> > > 
  > > Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading> > > > 
  > Date: 04/02/2002 06:32am> > > > >> > > 
  > >> > > > > In almost any cycle study a pattern 
  shows up.  When you use 10:00> AM,> > > > > 
  which> > > > > time zone are you in?  If you are still 
  trading at 2 PM itcertainly> > > > > isn't> > 
  > > > the west coast.  By breaking down the daily bars one can 
  locate> > > > > certain times> > > > > 
  of the day when markets tend to reverse their direction.  If 
  youget> > > > > down to> > > > > the 
  5 min. 3 min. and 1 min. time frames you are able to get downto> 
  > > > > the 1> > > > > 1/2 hour cycles, 
  etc.  There used to be patterns that occurredwhen> > > 
  > > it was> > > > > lunch time in NY and Chicago, but 
  they only held up for a little> > > > > while.  
  One> > > > > has to take the time to not only find the 
  cycle but to analyze it> and> > > > > understand 
  that it will not remain constant and for a while they> > > > 
  > could become> > > > > self fulfilling.  I have 
  not been able to find a timing systemthat> > > > > 
  will> > > > > stand alone as a trading vehicle.  If 
  anyone has, I would be> > > > > interested. Ira.> 
  > > > >> > > > > PS. Does the sky have a color 
  or is it just a reflection of> something> > > > > 
  else?> > > > > Just like some on this list, who act as 
  mirrors of drivel and bad> > > > > taste.> > > 
  > >> > > > > John Cappello wrote:> > > 
  > >> > > > > > Certain authors have written about 
  the subject. The one I have> been> > > > > > 
  casually following is an observation that the S&P market 
  startsto> > > > > > establish two major moves , one 
  at 10 AM and another at 2 PM.> > > > > >> > 
  > > > > I have just been observing the 10 AM move by logging in 
  the cash> > > > > > value at 10 AM and again at 10:15 
  AM. In 4 of the five days> followed> > > > > > 
  the direction up or down movement was sustained to at leastuntil> 
  > > > > > 11:15 for what appeared to be a profit.> > 
  > > > >> > > > > > Has anyone tried to build 
  a system around anything close to this> > > > > > 
  concept.?> > > > > >> > > > > > 
  Ben made a beautiful post on calls with charts and all...no> 
  comments> > > > > > from the peanut gallery likely 
  because they did not understandit.> > > > > 
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