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Dear Earl,

I believe you are right since the 11:15 A.M. exit was -7.7 on the 
cash and close to breakeven on the futures. I believe there was a 
discretionary exit of up to 3 points on the futures between the times 
specified.

Sincerely,

John



------------------ Reply Separator --------------------
Originally From: "Earl Adamy" <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test
Date: 04/02/2002 08:59am


I submit that this morning's trading is nothing more than a bear flag
setting up within the bounds of 38% retracement of the decline ... 
this
suggests that 1134 is unlikely to hold.

Earl

----- Original Message -----
From: "BobR" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test


> Classical MP theory says we are in for a range bound day defined by 
1144.1
> and 1134.30 because the open was within Monday's value area.  So 
far the
> first 3 half hour brackets are pretty much hanging onto Monday's 
value
area
> pivot of 1139.2.  So, its for S/R trading within vah and val until 
a close
> and open outside that area.
>
> bobr
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BobR" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test
>
>
> > The system trade here is a break above the first hour high at 
1141.5 and
> > since the day's range is so narrow so far compared to the 
average, John
> > might easily get the 4 points to take it from the current four to 
the
> > average of 9.29.
> >
> > bobr
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Cappello" <jvc689@xxxxxxx>
> > To: "Ira Tunik" <irat@xxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:29 AM
> > Subject: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test
> >
> >
> > > Dear Ira,
> > >
> > > I am using EST . The cash S&P at 10 AM was -7.4 and at 10:15 
was -
> > > 7.14, maybe a buy signal in raw state. I am looking initially 
at a 4
> > > pt stop and 11:15 AM exit.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------ Reply Separator --------------------
> > > Originally From: Ira Tunik <irat@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading
> > > Date: 04/02/2002 06:32am
> > >
> > >
> > > In almost any cycle study a pattern shows up.  When you use 
10:00 AM,
> > > which
> > > time zone are you in?  If you are still trading at 2 PM it 
certainly
> > > isn't
> > > the west coast.  By breaking down the daily bars one can locate
> > > certain times
> > > of the day when markets tend to reverse their direction.  If 
you get
> > > down to
> > > the 5 min. 3 min. and 1 min. time frames you are able to get 
down to
> > > the 1
> > > 1/2 hour cycles, etc.  There used to be patterns that occurred 
when
> > > it was
> > > lunch time in NY and Chicago, but they only held up for a little
> > > while.  One
> > > has to take the time to not only find the cycle but to analyze 
it and
> > > understand that it will not remain constant and for a while they
> > > could become
> > > self fulfilling.  I have not been able to find a timing system 
that
> > > will
> > > stand alone as a trading vehicle.  If anyone has, I would be
> > > interested. Ira.
> > >
> > > PS. Does the sky have a color or is it just a reflection of 
something
> > > else?
> > > Just like some on this list, who act as mirrors of drivel and 
bad
> > > taste.
> > >
> > > John Cappello wrote:
> > >
> > > > Certain authors have written about the subject. The one I 
have been
> > > > casually following is an observation that the S&P market 
starts to
> > > > establish two major moves , one at 10 AM and another at 2 PM.
> > > >
> > > > I have just been observing the 10 AM move by logging in the 
cash
> > > > value at 10 AM and again at 10:15 AM. In 4 of the five days 
followed
> > > > the direction up or down movement was sustained to at least 
until
> > > > 11:15 for what appeared to be a profit.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone tried to build a system around anything close to 
this
> > > > concept.?
> > > >
> > > > Ben made a beautiful post on calls with charts and all...no 
comments
> > > > from the peanut gallery likely because they did not 
understand it.
> > > >
> > >
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