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Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test



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Volume IS  showing a BULLISH  divergence on the sp500
but not on the NASDAQ
I suspect  the  run down will be shallow
WE will MAKE A LOWER LOW ON BOTH
but I  will be a buyer
now this is NOT  for the faint heart as this WILL take  a while 
to climb  back to  1160
nice  evening
Ben
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  Lee Morris 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:05 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [RT] Time and Motion Trading 
  Test
  
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  class=680575602-03042002>Earl, it seems I'm in the boat next to you as my play 
  book is the same. The issue I've got is that we are running out of real estate 
  on the downside and the vix is not moving and if we do not get going soon 
  several of the longer cycles and the seasonality will work against us. I see a 
  lot of possible CIT around the 8th which is next monday
  
    <FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Earl Adamy 
    [mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:46 
    PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] 
    Time and Motion Trading TestI'm still working with 
    the weekly ABC projection SP futures chart I postedin October. When the 
    SP put in the 1073 low, I was able to refine my W.Ctarget to a range of 
    1222-1331 which I expected to be reached in April.Thus, I've been 
    expecting a rally for some weeks now, however so far it hasnot been 
    ready to move. What I am observing is a constant and violentrotation 
    under the hood of a very low VIX and oscillating breadth. OnMonday, the 
    ND rallied strongly while the SP lagged badly. Today, NDdeclined 
    strongly while the SP put in a flag and then refused to break. 
    Thisalternation has been occurring rather frequently which is indicative 
    of achurning market which is difficult for traders and hazardous to 
    investors.I'm not sure when this will end, however positive seasonality 
    ends at theend of this month. My best guess is that the SP will undergo 
    a sharp declinewithin a few days and then commence the expected 
    rally.Earl----- Original Message -----From: "Bob 
    Heisler" <BHEISLER@xxxxxxxxx>To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:29 
    PMSubject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test> I was 
    looking for the same thing Earl.  I thought we had something 
    whenthe> ND broke and held 1430ish, but while the ND crept lower 
    the Dow crepthigher> trapping the S&P inside a 6 point 
    range...ugh.  It would sure be nice to> have a day(s) when the 
    DJ/ND are in sync instead of divergent the majority> of the 
    time.  Looks like we need the Dow to surrender the 260 area to 
    get> through 1134 which should liven things up a bit.  In the 
    interim I hope> bonds continue to move the way they have been.  
    What a pleasure it was to> trade them again today.>> 
    Bob>> ----- Original Message -----> From: "Earl Adamy" 
    <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>> To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 
    9:59 AM> Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading 
    Test>>> > I submit that this morning's trading is 
    nothing more than a bear flag> > setting up within the bounds of 
    38% retracement of the decline ... this> > suggests that 1134 is 
    unlikely to hold.> >> > Earl> >> > 
    ----- Original Message -----> > From: "BobR" 
    <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 
    2002 8:55 AM> > Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading 
    Test> >> >> > > Classical MP theory says we 
    are in for a range bound day defined by> 1144.1> > > and 
    1134.30 because the open was within Monday's value area.  So 
    farthe> > > first 3 half hour brackets are pretty much 
    hanging onto Monday's value> > area> > > pivot of 
    1139.2.  So, its for S/R trading within vah and val until a> 
    close> > > and open outside that area.> > 
    >> > > bobr> > >> > > ----- 
    Original Message -----> > > From: "BobR" 
    <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 
    02, 2002 7:43 AM> > > Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading 
    Test> > >> > >> > > > The system 
    trade here is a break above the first hour high at 1141.5> 
    and> > > > since the day's range is so narrow so far 
    compared to the average,> John> > > > might easily 
    get the 4 points to take it from the current four tothe> > 
    > > average of 9.29.> > > >> > > > 
    bobr> > > >> > > > ----- Original Message 
    -----> > > > From: "John Cappello" 
    <jvc689@xxxxxxx>> > > > To: "Ira Tunik" 
    <irat@xxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > 
    > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:29 AM> > > > 
    Subject: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test> > > >> 
    > > >> > > > > Dear Ira,> > > > 
    >> > > > > I am using EST . The cash S&P at 10 AM 
    was -7.4 and at 10:15 was -> > > > > 7.14, maybe a buy 
    signal in raw state. I am looking initially at a4> > > > 
    > pt stop and 11:15 AM exit.> > > > >> > 
    > > > Sincerely,> > > > >> > > > 
    > John> > > > >> > > > >> 
    > > > >> > > > > ------------------ Reply 
    Separator --------------------> > > > > Originally From: 
    Ira Tunik <irat@xxxxxxxxx>> > > > > Subject: Re: 
    [RT] Time and Motion Trading> > > > > Date: 04/02/2002 
    06:32am> > > > >> > > > >> > 
    > > > In almost any cycle study a pattern shows up.  When you 
    use 10:00> AM,> > > > > which> > > 
    > > time zone are you in?  If you are still trading at 2 PM 
    itcertainly> > > > > isn't> > > > 
    > the west coast.  By breaking down the daily bars one can 
    locate> > > > > certain times> > > > > 
    of the day when markets tend to reverse their direction.  If 
    youget> > > > > down to> > > > > 
    the 5 min. 3 min. and 1 min. time frames you are able to get 
    downto> > > > > the 1> > > > > 1/2 
    hour cycles, etc.  There used to be patterns that 
    occurredwhen> > > > > it was> > > > 
    > lunch time in NY and Chicago, but they only held up for a 
    little> > > > > while.  One> > > > 
    > has to take the time to not only find the cycle but to analyze 
    it> and> > > > > understand that it will not 
    remain constant and for a while they> > > > > could 
    become> > > > > self fulfilling.  I have not been 
    able to find a timing systemthat> > > > > 
    will> > > > > stand alone as a trading vehicle.  If 
    anyone has, I would be> > > > > interested. Ira.> 
    > > > >> > > > > PS. Does the sky have a 
    color or is it just a reflection of> something> > > > 
    > else?> > > > > Just like some on this list, who act 
    as mirrors of drivel and bad> > > > > taste.> > 
    > > >> > > > > John Cappello wrote:> > 
    > > >> > > > > > Certain authors have written 
    about the subject. The one I have> been> > > > > 
    > casually following is an observation that the S&P market 
    startsto> > > > > > establish two major moves , 
    one at 10 AM and another at 2 PM.> > > > > >> 
    > > > > > I have just been observing the 10 AM move by 
    logging in the cash> > > > > > value at 10 AM and 
    again at 10:15 AM. In 4 of the five days> followed> > > 
    > > > the direction up or down movement was sustained to at 
    leastuntil> > > > > > 11:15 for what appeared to 
    be a profit.> > > > > >> > > > > 
    > Has anyone tried to build a system around anything close to 
    this> > > > > > concept.?> > > > > 
    >> > > > > > Ben made a beautiful post on calls 
    with charts and all...no> comments> > > > > > 
    from the peanut gallery likely because they did not 
    understandit.> > > > > >> > > > 
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