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RE: [RT] Re: 12/19 and bonds



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I thought they had gotten rid of the 30 yr bond auctions last year.
Or amybe I'm thinking of something else.  What impact will this have
on bond prices (both long and short maturity)?

-- John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: bruce.larson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bruce.larson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:30 PM
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [RT] Re: 12/19 and bonds
>
>
> Some bozo on CNBC a few minutes ago is saying Rubin is behind this.
> Get real.  The treasury sent a questionairre out to all the major
> bond houses back in Sep 99 and asked for their feedback on a possible
> buyback.  In Oct 99 the Treasury said the feedback was favorable.  In
> Jan 00, the Treasury announced official buyback plans.  What's
> happening here after billions of old bonds have already been
> reclaimed is the Treasury being forced to pay up above market value
> for these bonds hidden deep in some portfolios.  Doesn't take a brain
> surgeon to figure the cost effective thing to do is to just eliminate
> 30 year auctions.
> Look out for pressure on the 10s and a possible 10s-30s inversion.
>
>
>
> --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Dorothy K. Carter" <dorothy.carter@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > I saw Under Secy Tsy for domestic finance on TV...  Peter
> R.Fisher... he was
> > asked why now his answer was as I quoted below...........  I
> repeated what
> > he said on TV    and yes it was announced along with the qtrly
> refunding
> > anouncement... now  vs last month    or prior to today......
> according to
> > him.........    :-)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <bruce.larson@xxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:00 PM
> > Subject: [RT] Re: 12/19 and bonds
> >
> >
> > > Huh?  The Treasury announced the suspension of the 30 year as
> part of
> > > its quarterly refunding anouncement.
> > >
> > > http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/po749.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Dorothy K. Carter" <dorothy.carter@xxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > The timing of the announcement was because they were waiting
> for the
> > > > officials to be sworn into office... so that's why today... I
> heard
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <chrischeatham@xxxx>
> > > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:21 PM
> > > > Subject: [RT] Re: 12/19 and bonds
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Interesting.  Just thinking of the "surprise" 10 year auction
> > > done by
> > > > > Treasury a few weeks back done to take pressure off the repo
> > > market.
> > > > > Now lets see what they do when there are inbalances of their
> own
> > > > > creation.  I guess the good news is that they did it a couple
> of
> > > > > months early.  This Treasury is turning into much more of a
> trader
> > > > > than I gave them credit for.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, bruce.larson@xxxx wrote:
> > > > > > Another poster here and I both agreed a while back the bond
> > > would
> > > > > top
> > > > > > out on Dec 19.  December 19 is the last trade and delivery
> > > deadline
> > > > > > for December futures.  There's going to be one heck of a mad
> > > > > scramble
> > > > > > when all the bond longs demand delivery come December.
> Who's
> > > going
> > > > > > to give'em up?  Just watch.  Its going to get real
> > > interesting.  In
> > > > > > fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the exchange has to come
> in to
> > > > > alter
> > > > > > the rules.  They did it for the German bobl contract in the
> mid
> > > 90s
> > > > > > when there was a big squeeze and the shorts couldn't
> deliver.
> > > > > > 30 year UK gilts are at 4.3 vs 4.5 for UK ten years.  Could
> be a
> > > > > good
> > > > > > proxy for things to come in the US.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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