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I don't claim to be the expert on the topic.. I
just have stated the obvious that
there is no guarantee of any safe way to
bury this type of material that is known to glow for 50-100 yrs....... Common
sense is part of knowledge vs what someone wants to sell
you........
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wavemechanic
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:25
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
Do your homework. Cynicism does not replace
knowledge.
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<A href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";
title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy Carter
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001
10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
I won't be here in 50 or 100 yrs....
it's like the construction worker who digs in an area before
finding out that utility line is buried there... In 50 - 100 yrs..... do you
leave notes as to where these are burried???
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<A href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wavemechanic
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001
10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
Read the literature and you will see all of the
information. Not to worry, you will not be blown
up.
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<A href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";
title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy K. Carter
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001
10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
for how many years???? which generation
does it blow up on???????????
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<A href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wavemechanic
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15,
2001 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
There are tests (chemical, radiation damage,
etc.) that qualify it for LT burial in salt caves,
etc.
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<A href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";
title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy K. Carter
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15,
2001 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
Bill:As far as burial
goes// Please tell me about the tests that this product has
passed..... 50 yrs? 100yrs???
I think you get my point......
or if a heavy fishing boat or submarine hits
it what kind of blow can it take...... Remember Architects who
built the WTC built it to withstand small planes hitting it......
when dealing with this type of life threatning material one has to
expect the un expected...
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<A href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wavemechanic
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15,
2001 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
There are ways to go. For example,
Lawrence Livermore has developed a non-leachable ceramic
material that is suitable for containment and subsequent
burial. It has been patented and put on the shelf in order
to satisfy certain industrial interests. Campaign money
rules for now, but like reactors the technology is there when
needed.
Bill
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<A href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";
title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy Carter
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September
15, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
Yes, and the same greenies that
we use to see in the airports hugging trees and hating nukes are
now embracing nuclear over oil....... how short our memories
are. France and other countries have successfully used
nuclear without incident...... the bigger issue is what do you
do with the waste.... if you put it into the Atlantic or pacific
ocean then someday you better not order Salmon dinner or Halibut
steak as Halibut are bottom fish..... so while we may have
to resort in the interim to nuclear plants we are creating a
problem for the next generation as far as disposing of the
waste... somehow the big bad oil companies don't seem like such
villains................
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<A href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wavemechanic
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September
15, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show
your colors/ Oil
Dorothy:
Several years ago, the DoE was
advised to maintain expertise in nuclear energy so that when
the first city goes cold and dark the country would not have
to reinvent the wheel in order to get going. Looks like
we are just about there.
Bill
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title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy K. Carter
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday,
September 15, 2001 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show
your colors/ Oil
AMEN....Up until 1 yr ago... I lived in
Anchorage Alaska for 27yrs. and itis taking this
disaster to get the greenies to figure out the importance
ofhaving domestic oil supply vs being so dependant on
foreign oil.. It hasbeen a smart decision made my U.S.
govt to import foreign oil while theprice of crude oil
is was low priced and to save ours for a time when
theprice would be high. It is apparant that ..
that time is possibly upon us.I can assure you that the
pipeline does no harm to the environment... infact the
grass and voilage around and under the pipeline flourishes
from thewarmth... and the caribou migrate close to the
pipeline because of thewarmth... Alaskans during
the last oil embargo use to have a saying towardthe
people in the lower 48 who were anti Alaskan oil
development..... "letthe bas----ds freeze in the dark"..
well folks... it appears that.... thattime might be upon
us if we can't get the politicians to understand
theimportance of having ability to develop our natural
resources and to havethe refineries to bring the product
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-----From: "Gila Brock" <<A
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<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PMSubject: Re: [RT]
show your colors/ Oil> This article was
written by Joseph Farah, an Arab-American journalist,
not> an Israeli:>> The Wakeup
Call>> Joseph Farah> September 13,
2001>> America got its long-awaited,
long-anticipated and long-dreaded
wakeupcall.>> The terror war came home in
a big way Tuesday, Sept. 11.>> Everything has
changed. Nothing will be the same, again.>>
Just look at the impact the slaughter and destruction had on
George W.Bush> and Colin Powell, for
instance.>> For months, as Israel has faced,
on a daily basis, similar terrorincidents>
carried out by people living within its very borders, Bush
and Powell have> told the Israelis over and over
again: "Show restraint. Negotiate. Don'tuse>
excessive force. Don't retaliate. Break the cycle of
violence.">> Yet, within hours of the
blitzkrieg attack on the World Trade Center and>
Pentagon and the dramatic hijacking of four airliners, the
Bush-Powelltune> had changed.>>
There was no talk of restraint. There was no talk of
negotiation. Therewas> no worry about excessive
force. There was a promise of retaliation.
Andwe,> as a nation, were assured that we would
not lay down in hopes theattackers> would be
satisfied with their blood toll.>> Bush, in
fact, asserted he would hold any nation harboring the
terrorists> accountable for their actions. Israel has
been coaxed and bullied by the> U.S. to do precisely
the opposite.>> Now the U.S. administration
says it is outraged and is determined to> "punish"
those responsible for "the attack on
freedom.">> I'm glad to hear it. And, far be
it for me to question the sudden good> judgment being
shown in Washington. But it's illustrative of what I
have> been saying for the last year. The U.S. has
been asking Israel to maintain> an untenable course
of inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to
ensure> that terrorism would spread beyond the Middle
East to the shores of theU.S.> through its shaky,
equivocal, timid, impotent, weak, half-way measures
in> the face of Israel's constant battle with
terror.>> Does Bush really get it? Will he
follow through on his own promise? Willhis>
demands on Israel change? Does he plan to follow his own
advice?>> Who knows? Time will tell. But
Americans would do well to remember this> moment - to
reflect on the pain, to recall this mourning. This is
what> Israel has been enduring in its own less
dramatic way - day after day,drip> after drip,
explosion after bloody explosion.>> Let me go
further. We hear many pundits and administration
spokesmennaming> names - Sudan, Afghanistan,
Iran, Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one of them>
mention the home state of the chief suspect - Osama bin
Laden.>> He's not an Afghani, by the way. He's
a Saudi - and that's where hissupport> comes
from. That's where his money comes from. That's his lifeline
-> oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi Arabia.>>
Is Washington prepared to issue ultimatums to Mecca? If not,
why not?>> The answer, of course, is oil -
which is why as a matter of national> strategic
defense, America needs to do what is necessary to achieve
energy> independence as quickly as possible. Wars do
tend to get messy, you know.> And America has the
natural resources to be independent of Mideast
oil.>> To do so, however, we've got to decide
as a nation whether we are more> scared of radical
environmentalists or radical Muslims. That's the
choice> before us.>> In a very real
sense, we can look at the tens of thousands of
casualtiesin> Tuesday's horror as casualties of
the radical environmentalists, who have> persuaded
Americans they would be better off dependent on foreign oil
than> on marring the landscape or causing undue
stress in the elk.>> It's time to get serious,
folks. This is war. We don't fight wars with> people
who control our vital natural resources. But we may have to
fight a> war with the people supplying us with oil.
What are we going to do about> that?>>
Americans may be called to sacrifice. I think they're ready
for such acall.> They watched the devastation on
TV Tuesday. They will rise to theoccasion -> if
their leaders in Washington ask them to do
so.>> It's a time for sacrifices. That means
even the elk in Alaska may need to> lose a few acres
of real estate for the greater good - saving the lives
of> Americans.>>>> -----
Original Message -----> From: Daniel Goncharoff
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To: <<A
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM> Subject:
Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil>>> >
In the interest of helping people to know their enemy
better, I want to> > express my opinion based on
research over the last year that the main> >
'provocation' the US has committed against Islam is its
continued> > presence in Saudi Arabia, which is
seen as hallowed ground by Muslims.> >>
> I take this from translations of speeches by Osama Bin
Laden, which are> > much more available from
European sources, eg the UK press, then they> >
are from US sources.> >> > Many
Americans are perhaps deceived by the focus in the US press
on> > other Arab nations that are extremely vocal
in their opposition to> > Israel and, accordingly,
to its strong ally the US. Most of these> >
governments are, in fact, supportive of the US due to our
protection of> > Kuwait against Iraq, but they are
not democracies, and therefore also> > allow
anti-American feelings among their (mostly down-trodden)
people to> > continue bubbling up, diverting
attention from their own regimes.> >> >
Regards> > DanG> >> >>
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