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  Dorothy 
  Carter 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:23 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
  Oil
  
  I  won't be here in 50 or 100 yrs.... 
  it's like  the construction worker who digs  in an area before 
  finding out that utility line is buried there... In 50 - 100 yrs..... do you 
  leave notes as to where these are burried???
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    wavemechanic 
    
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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    Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 
    10:06 PM
    Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
    Oil
    
    Read the literature and you will see all of the 
    information.  Not to worry, you will not be blown 
    up.
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      <A title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx 
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      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 
      10:03 PM
      Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
      Oil
      
      for how many years???? which generation 
      does it blow up on???????????
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        <A title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
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        To: <A 
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        Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 
        9:53 PM
        Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
        Oil
        
        There are tests (chemical, radiation damage, 
        etc.) that qualify it for LT burial in salt caves, 
        etc.
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          <A title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx 
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          To: <A 
          title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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          Sent: Saturday, September 15, 
          2001 9:33 PM
          Subject: Re: [RT] show your 
          colors/ Oil
          
          Bill:As far as burial 
          goes// Please tell me about the tests that this product has 
          passed..... 50 yrs?  100yrs???
          I think you get my point......  
          or if  a heavy  fishing boat   or submarine hits 
          it what kind of blow can it take...... Remember Architects who 
          built the WTC built it to withstand small planes hitting it...... when 
          dealing with this type of life threatning material one has to expect 
          the un expected...
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            title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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            Sent: Saturday, September 15, 
            2001 9:19 PM
            Subject: Re: [RT] show your 
            colors/ Oil
            
            There are ways to go.  For example, 
            Lawrence Livermore has developed a non-leachable ceramic 
            material that is suitable for containment and subsequent 
            burial.  It has been patented and put on the shelf in order to 
            satisfy certain industrial interests.  Campaign money rules for 
            now, but like reactors the technology is there when 
            needed.
             
            Bill
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              To: <A 
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              Sent: Saturday, September 15, 
              2001 9:07 PM
              Subject: Re: [RT] show your 
              colors/ Oil
              
              Yes, and the same greenies that we 
              use to see in the airports hugging trees and hating nukes are now 
              embracing nuclear over oil....... how short our memories 
              are.  France and other countries have successfully used 
              nuclear without incident...... the bigger issue is what do you do 
              with the waste.... if you put it into the Atlantic or pacific 
              ocean then someday you better not order Salmon dinner or Halibut 
              steak as Halibut are bottom fish..... so while we may have to 
              resort in the interim to nuclear plants we are creating a problem 
              for the next generation as far as disposing of the waste... 
              somehow the big bad oil companies don't seem like such 
              villains................
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                <A title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
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                title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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                Sent: Saturday, September 
                15, 2001 8:44 PM
                Subject: Re: [RT] show your 
                colors/ Oil
                
                Dorothy:
                 
                Several years ago, the DoE was advised 
                to maintain expertise in nuclear energy so that when the first 
                city goes cold and dark the country would not have to reinvent 
                the wheel in order to get going.  Looks like we are just 
                about there.
                 
                Bill
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                  To: <A 
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                  Sent: Saturday, September 
                  15, 2001 4:24 PM
                  Subject: Re: [RT] show 
                  your colors/ Oil
                  AMEN....Up until 1 yr ago... I lived in 
                  Anchorage Alaska for 27yrs. and itis taking this disaster 
                  to get the greenies to figure out the importance ofhaving 
                  domestic oil supply vs being so dependant on foreign oil.. It 
                  hasbeen a smart decision made my U.S. govt to import 
                  foreign oil while theprice of crude oil is was low priced 
                  and to save ours for a time when theprice would be 
                  high.  It is apparant that .. that time is possibly upon 
                  us.I can assure you that the pipeline does no harm to the 
                  environment... infact the grass and voilage around and 
                  under the pipeline flourishes from thewarmth... and the 
                  caribou migrate close to the pipeline because of 
                  thewarmth...  Alaskans during the last oil embargo 
                  use to have a saying towardthe people in the lower 48 who 
                  were anti Alaskan oil development..... "letthe bas----ds 
                  freeze in the dark".. well folks... it appears that.... 
                  thattime might be upon us if we can't get the politicians 
                  to understand theimportance of having ability to develop 
                  our natural resources and to havethe refineries to bring 
                  the product to the consumer.....----- Original Message 
                  -----From: "Gila Brock" <<A 
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                  <<A 
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                  Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PMSubject: Re: [RT] show 
                  your colors/ Oil> This article was written by 
                  Joseph Farah, an Arab-American journalist, not> an 
                  Israeli:>> The Wakeup Call>> 
                  Joseph Farah> September 13, 2001>> 
                  America got its long-awaited, long-anticipated and 
                  long-dreaded wakeupcall.>> The terror war 
                  came home in a big way Tuesday, Sept. 11.>> 
                  Everything has changed. Nothing will be the same, 
                  again.>> Just look at the impact the slaughter 
                  and destruction had on George W.Bush> and Colin 
                  Powell, for instance.>> For months, as Israel 
                  has faced, on a daily basis, similar 
                  terrorincidents> carried out by people living 
                  within its very borders, Bush and Powell have> told the 
                  Israelis over and over again: "Show restraint. Negotiate. 
                  Don'tuse> excessive force. Don't retaliate. Break 
                  the cycle of violence.">> Yet, within hours of 
                  the blitzkrieg attack on the World Trade Center and> 
                  Pentagon and the dramatic hijacking of four airliners, the 
                  Bush-Powelltune> had changed.>> There 
                  was no talk of restraint. There was no talk of negotiation. 
                  Therewas> no worry about excessive force. There was 
                  a promise of retaliation. Andwe,> as a nation, were 
                  assured that we would not lay down in hopes 
                  theattackers> would be satisfied with their blood 
                  toll.>> Bush, in fact, asserted he would hold 
                  any nation harboring the terrorists> accountable for 
                  their actions. Israel has been coaxed and bullied by 
                  the> U.S. to do precisely the opposite.>> 
                  Now the U.S. administration says it is outraged and is 
                  determined to> "punish" those responsible for "the 
                  attack on freedom.">> I'm glad to hear it. And, 
                  far be it for me to question the sudden good> judgment 
                  being shown in Washington. But it's illustrative of what I 
                  have> been saying for the last year. The U.S. has been 
                  asking Israel to maintain> an untenable course of 
                  inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to ensure> 
                  that terrorism would spread beyond the Middle East to the 
                  shores of theU.S.> through its shaky, equivocal, 
                  timid, impotent, weak, half-way measures in> the face 
                  of Israel's constant battle with terror.>> Does 
                  Bush really get it? Will he follow through on his own promise? 
                  Willhis> demands on Israel change? Does he plan to 
                  follow his own advice?>> Who knows? Time will 
                  tell. But Americans would do well to remember this> 
                  moment - to reflect on the pain, to recall this mourning. This 
                  is what> Israel has been enduring in its own less 
                  dramatic way - day after day,drip> after drip, 
                  explosion after bloody explosion.>> Let me go 
                  further. We hear many pundits and administration 
                  spokesmennaming> names - Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, 
                  Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one of them> mention the 
                  home state of the chief suspect - Osama bin 
                  Laden.>> He's not an Afghani, by the way. He's a 
                  Saudi - and that's where hissupport> comes from. 
                  That's where his money comes from. That's his lifeline 
                  -> oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi Arabia.>> 
                  Is Washington prepared to issue ultimatums to Mecca? If not, 
                  why not?>> The answer, of course, is oil - which 
                  is why as a matter of national> strategic defense, 
                  America needs to do what is necessary to achieve 
                  energy> independence as quickly as possible. Wars do 
                  tend to get messy, you know.> And America has the 
                  natural resources to be independent of Mideast 
                  oil.>> To do so, however, we've got to decide as 
                  a nation whether we are more> scared of radical 
                  environmentalists or radical Muslims. That's the 
                  choice> before us.>> In a very real 
                  sense, we can look at the tens of thousands of 
                  casualtiesin> Tuesday's horror as casualties of the 
                  radical environmentalists, who have> persuaded 
                  Americans they would be better off dependent on foreign oil 
                  than> on marring the landscape or causing undue stress 
                  in the elk.>> It's time to get serious, folks. 
                  This is war. We don't fight wars with> people who 
                  control our vital natural resources. But we may have to fight 
                  a> war with the people supplying us with oil. What are 
                  we going to do about> that?>> Americans 
                  may be called to sacrifice. I think they're ready for such 
                  acall.> They watched the devastation on TV Tuesday. 
                  They will rise to theoccasion -> if their leaders 
                  in Washington ask them to do so.>> It's a time 
                  for sacrifices. That means even the elk in Alaska may need 
                  to> lose a few acres of real estate for the greater 
                  good - saving the lives of> 
                  Americans.>>>> ----- Original 
                  Message -----> From: Daniel Goncharoff <<A 
                  href="mailto:thegonch@xxxxxxxxxx";>thegonch@xxxxxxxxxx>> 
                  To: <<A 
                  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
                  Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM> Subject: 
                  Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil>>> > In 
                  the interest of helping people to know their enemy better, I 
                  want to> > express my opinion based on research over 
                  the last year that the main> > 'provocation' the US 
                  has committed against Islam is its continued> > 
                  presence in Saudi Arabia, which is seen as hallowed ground by 
                  Muslims.> >> > I take this from 
                  translations of speeches by Osama Bin Laden, which are> 
                  > much more available from European sources, eg the UK 
                  press, then they> > are from US sources.> 
                  >> > Many Americans are perhaps deceived by the 
                  focus in the US press on> > other Arab nations that 
                  are extremely vocal in their opposition to> > Israel 
                  and, accordingly, to its strong ally the US. Most of 
                  these> > governments are, in fact, supportive of the 
                  US due to our protection of> > Kuwait against Iraq, 
                  but they are not democracies, and therefore also> > 
                  allow anti-American feelings among their (mostly down-trodden) 
                  people to> > continue bubbling up, diverting 
                  attention from their own regimes.> >> > 
                  Regards> > DanG> >> >> 
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