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Norman,
Water vapor is the largest cause of the depletion of the ozone layer. Yes
that's right, clouds are the mortal enemy of ozone. The thing that all those
catalytic converters create from car emissions. Yup.
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 20:54
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
Dorothy,
The only waste product from hydrogen fuel cells is water vapor.
Cheers,
Norman
----- Original Message -----
From: Dorothy Carter
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
Yes, and the same greenies that we use to see in the airports hugging
trees and hating nukes are now embracing nuclear over oil....... how short
our memories are. France and other countries have successfully used nuclear
without incident...... the bigger issue is what do you do with the waste....
if you put it into the Atlantic or pacific ocean then someday you better not
order Salmon dinner or Halibut steak as Halibut are bottom fish..... so
while we may have to resort in the interim to nuclear plants we are creating
a problem for the next generation as far as disposing of the waste...
somehow the big bad oil companies don't seem like such
villains................
----- Original Message -----
From: wavemechanic
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
Dorothy:
Several years ago, the DoE was advised to maintain expertise in nuclear
energy so that when the first city goes cold and dark the country would not
have to reinvent the wheel in order to get going. Looks like we are just
about there.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Dorothy K. Carter
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
AMEN....Up until 1 yr ago... I lived in Anchorage Alaska for 27yrs.
and it
is taking this disaster to get the greenies to figure out the
importance of
having domestic oil supply vs being so dependant on foreign oil.. It
has
been a smart decision made my U.S. govt to import foreign oil while
the
price of crude oil is was low priced and to save ours for a time when
the
price would be high. It is apparant that .. that time is possibly
upon us.
I can assure you that the pipeline does no harm to the environment...
in
fact the grass and voilage around and under the pipeline flourishes
from the
warmth... and the caribou migrate close to the pipeline because of the
warmth... Alaskans during the last oil embargo use to have a saying
toward
the people in the lower 48 who were anti Alaskan oil development.....
"let
the bas----ds freeze in the dark".. well folks... it appears that....
that
time might be upon us if we can't get the politicians to understand
the
importance of having ability to develop our natural resources and to
have
the refineries to bring the product to the consumer.....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gila Brock" <brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> This article was written by Joseph Farah, an Arab-American
journalist, not
> an Israeli:
>
> The Wakeup Call
>
> Joseph Farah
> September 13, 2001
>
> America got its long-awaited, long-anticipated and long-dreaded
wakeup
call.
>
> The terror war came home in a big way Tuesday, Sept. 11.
>
> Everything has changed. Nothing will be the same, again.
>
> Just look at the impact the slaughter and destruction had on George
W.
Bush
> and Colin Powell, for instance.
>
> For months, as Israel has faced, on a daily basis, similar terror
incidents
> carried out by people living within its very borders, Bush and
Powell have
> told the Israelis over and over again: "Show restraint. Negotiate.
Don't
use
> excessive force. Don't retaliate. Break the cycle of violence."
>
> Yet, within hours of the blitzkrieg attack on the World Trade Center
and
> Pentagon and the dramatic hijacking of four airliners, the
Bush-Powell
tune
> had changed.
>
> There was no talk of restraint. There was no talk of negotiation.
There
was
> no worry about excessive force. There was a promise of retaliation.
And
we,
> as a nation, were assured that we would not lay down in hopes the
attackers
> would be satisfied with their blood toll.
>
> Bush, in fact, asserted he would hold any nation harboring the
terrorists
> accountable for their actions. Israel has been coaxed and bullied by
the
> U.S. to do precisely the opposite.
>
> Now the U.S. administration says it is outraged and is determined to
> "punish" those responsible for "the attack on freedom."
>
> I'm glad to hear it. And, far be it for me to question the sudden
good
> judgment being shown in Washington. But it's illustrative of what I
have
> been saying for the last year. The U.S. has been asking Israel to
maintain
> an untenable course of inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to
ensure
> that terrorism would spread beyond the Middle East to the shores of
the
U.S.
> through its shaky, equivocal, timid, impotent, weak, half-way
measures in
> the face of Israel's constant battle with terror.
>
> Does Bush really get it? Will he follow through on his own promise?
Will
his
> demands on Israel change? Does he plan to follow his own advice?
>
> Who knows? Time will tell. But Americans would do well to remember
this
> moment - to reflect on the pain, to recall this mourning. This is
what
> Israel has been enduring in its own less dramatic way - day after
day,
drip
> after drip, explosion after bloody explosion.
>
> Let me go further. We hear many pundits and administration spokesmen
naming
> names - Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one
of them
> mention the home state of the chief suspect - Osama bin Laden.
>
> He's not an Afghani, by the way. He's a Saudi - and that's where his
support
> comes from. That's where his money comes from. That's his lifeline -
> oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi Arabia.
>
> Is Washington prepared to issue ultimatums to Mecca? If not, why
not?
>
> The answer, of course, is oil - which is why as a matter of national
> strategic defense, America needs to do what is necessary to achieve
energy
> independence as quickly as possible. Wars do tend to get messy, you
know.
> And America has the natural resources to be independent of Mideast
oil.
>
> To do so, however, we've got to decide as a nation whether we are
more
> scared of radical environmentalists or radical Muslims. That's the
choice
> before us.
>
> In a very real sense, we can look at the tens of thousands of
casualties
in
> Tuesday's horror as casualties of the radical environmentalists, who
have
> persuaded Americans they would be better off dependent on foreign
oil than
> on marring the landscape or causing undue stress in the elk.
>
> It's time to get serious, folks. This is war. We don't fight wars
with
> people who control our vital natural resources. But we may have to
fight a
> war with the people supplying us with oil. What are we going to do
about
> that?
>
> Americans may be called to sacrifice. I think they're ready for such
a
call.
> They watched the devastation on TV Tuesday. They will rise to the
occasion -
> if their leaders in Washington ask them to do so.
>
> It's a time for sacrifices. That means even the elk in Alaska may
need to
> lose a few acres of real estate for the greater good - saving the
lives of
> Americans.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Daniel Goncharoff <thegonch@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
>
>
> > In the interest of helping people to know their enemy better, I
want to
> > express my opinion based on research over the last year that the
main
> > 'provocation' the US has committed against Islam is its continued
> > presence in Saudi Arabia, which is seen as hallowed ground by
Muslims.
> >
> > I take this from translations of speeches by Osama Bin Laden,
which are
> > much more available from European sources, eg the UK press, then
they
> > are from US sources.
> >
> > Many Americans are perhaps deceived by the focus in the US press
on
> > other Arab nations that are extremely vocal in their opposition to
> > Israel and, accordingly, to its strong ally the US. Most of these
> > governments are, in fact, supportive of the US due to our
protection of
> > Kuwait against Iraq, but they are not democracies, and therefore
also
> > allow anti-American feelings among their (mostly down-trodden)
people to
> > continue bubbling up, diverting attention from their own regimes.
> >
> > Regards
> > DanG
> >
> >
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