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Michael.. this group stands no chance with an Alaskan and an ex-Alaskan
whose heart is still in Alaska making posts..... :-) I'm sure that we all
will be glad come Monday when I for one hope this thread will go back to
"market tradable posts"..........
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ferguson" <wl7bdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> Norman,
>
> Water vapor is the largest cause of the depletion of the ozone layer. Yes
> that's right, clouds are the mortal enemy of ozone. The thing that all
those
> catalytic converters create from car emissions. Yup.
>
> Michael
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 20:54
> Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
>
>
> Dorothy,
>
> The only waste product from hydrogen fuel cells is water vapor.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Norman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dorothy Carter
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
>
>
> Yes, and the same greenies that we use to see in the airports hugging
> trees and hating nukes are now embracing nuclear over oil....... how short
> our memories are. France and other countries have successfully used
nuclear
> without incident...... the bigger issue is what do you do with the
waste....
> if you put it into the Atlantic or pacific ocean then someday you better
not
> order Salmon dinner or Halibut steak as Halibut are bottom fish..... so
> while we may have to resort in the interim to nuclear plants we are
creating
> a problem for the next generation as far as disposing of the waste...
> somehow the big bad oil companies don't seem like such
> villains................
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wavemechanic
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
>
>
> Dorothy:
>
> Several years ago, the DoE was advised to maintain expertise in
nuclear
> energy so that when the first city goes cold and dark the country would
not
> have to reinvent the wheel in order to get going. Looks like we are just
> about there.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dorothy K. Carter
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
>
>
> AMEN....Up until 1 yr ago... I lived in Anchorage Alaska for 27yrs.
> and it
> is taking this disaster to get the greenies to figure out the
> importance of
> having domestic oil supply vs being so dependant on foreign oil.. It
> has
> been a smart decision made my U.S. govt to import foreign oil while
> the
> price of crude oil is was low priced and to save ours for a time
when
> the
> price would be high. It is apparant that .. that time is possibly
> upon us.
> I can assure you that the pipeline does no harm to the
environment...
> in
> fact the grass and voilage around and under the pipeline flourishes
> from the
> warmth... and the caribou migrate close to the pipeline because of
the
> warmth... Alaskans during the last oil embargo use to have a saying
> toward
> the people in the lower 48 who were anti Alaskan oil
development.....
> "let
> the bas----ds freeze in the dark".. well folks... it appears
that....
> that
> time might be upon us if we can't get the politicians to understand
> the
> importance of having ability to develop our natural resources and to
> have
> the refineries to bring the product to the consumer.....
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gila Brock" <brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
>
>
> > This article was written by Joseph Farah, an Arab-American
> journalist, not
> > an Israeli:
> >
> > The Wakeup Call
> >
> > Joseph Farah
> > September 13, 2001
> >
> > America got its long-awaited, long-anticipated and long-dreaded
> wakeup
> call.
> >
> > The terror war came home in a big way Tuesday, Sept. 11.
> >
> > Everything has changed. Nothing will be the same, again.
> >
> > Just look at the impact the slaughter and destruction had on
George
> W.
> Bush
> > and Colin Powell, for instance.
> >
> > For months, as Israel has faced, on a daily basis, similar terror
> incidents
> > carried out by people living within its very borders, Bush and
> Powell have
> > told the Israelis over and over again: "Show restraint. Negotiate.
> Don't
> use
> > excessive force. Don't retaliate. Break the cycle of violence."
> >
> > Yet, within hours of the blitzkrieg attack on the World Trade
Center
> and
> > Pentagon and the dramatic hijacking of four airliners, the
> Bush-Powell
> tune
> > had changed.
> >
> > There was no talk of restraint. There was no talk of negotiation.
> There
> was
> > no worry about excessive force. There was a promise of
retaliation.
> And
> we,
> > as a nation, were assured that we would not lay down in hopes the
> attackers
> > would be satisfied with their blood toll.
> >
> > Bush, in fact, asserted he would hold any nation harboring the
> terrorists
> > accountable for their actions. Israel has been coaxed and bullied
by
> the
> > U.S. to do precisely the opposite.
> >
> > Now the U.S. administration says it is outraged and is determined
to
> > "punish" those responsible for "the attack on freedom."
> >
> > I'm glad to hear it. And, far be it for me to question the sudden
> good
> > judgment being shown in Washington. But it's illustrative of what
I
> have
> > been saying for the last year. The U.S. has been asking Israel to
> maintain
> > an untenable course of inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to
> ensure
> > that terrorism would spread beyond the Middle East to the shores
of
> the
> U.S.
> > through its shaky, equivocal, timid, impotent, weak, half-way
> measures in
> > the face of Israel's constant battle with terror.
> >
> > Does Bush really get it? Will he follow through on his own
promise?
> Will
> his
> > demands on Israel change? Does he plan to follow his own advice?
> >
> > Who knows? Time will tell. But Americans would do well to remember
> this
> > moment - to reflect on the pain, to recall this mourning. This is
> what
> > Israel has been enduring in its own less dramatic way - day after
> day,
> drip
> > after drip, explosion after bloody explosion.
> >
> > Let me go further. We hear many pundits and administration
spokesmen
> naming
> > names - Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one
> of them
> > mention the home state of the chief suspect - Osama bin Laden.
> >
> > He's not an Afghani, by the way. He's a Saudi - and that's where
his
> support
> > comes from. That's where his money comes from. That's his
lifeline -
> > oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi Arabia.
> >
> > Is Washington prepared to issue ultimatums to Mecca? If not, why
> not?
> >
> > The answer, of course, is oil - which is why as a matter of
national
> > strategic defense, America needs to do what is necessary to
achieve
> energy
> > independence as quickly as possible. Wars do tend to get messy,
you
> know.
> > And America has the natural resources to be independent of Mideast
> oil.
> >
> > To do so, however, we've got to decide as a nation whether we are
> more
> > scared of radical environmentalists or radical Muslims. That's the
> choice
> > before us.
> >
> > In a very real sense, we can look at the tens of thousands of
> casualties
> in
> > Tuesday's horror as casualties of the radical environmentalists,
who
> have
> > persuaded Americans they would be better off dependent on foreign
> oil than
> > on marring the landscape or causing undue stress in the elk.
> >
> > It's time to get serious, folks. This is war. We don't fight wars
> with
> > people who control our vital natural resources. But we may have to
> fight a
> > war with the people supplying us with oil. What are we going to do
> about
> > that?
> >
> > Americans may be called to sacrifice. I think they're ready for
such
> a
> call.
> > They watched the devastation on TV Tuesday. They will rise to the
> occasion -
> > if their leaders in Washington ask them to do so.
> >
> > It's a time for sacrifices. That means even the elk in Alaska may
> need to
> > lose a few acres of real estate for the greater good - saving the
> lives of
> > Americans.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Daniel Goncharoff <thegonch@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> >
> >
> > > In the interest of helping people to know their enemy better, I
> want to
> > > express my opinion based on research over the last year that the
> main
> > > 'provocation' the US has committed against Islam is its
continued
> > > presence in Saudi Arabia, which is seen as hallowed ground by
> Muslims.
> > >
> > > I take this from translations of speeches by Osama Bin Laden,
> which are
> > > much more available from European sources, eg the UK press, then
> they
> > > are from US sources.
> > >
> > > Many Americans are perhaps deceived by the focus in the US press
> on
> > > other Arab nations that are extremely vocal in their opposition
to
> > > Israel and, accordingly, to its strong ally the US. Most of
these
> > > governments are, in fact, supportive of the US due to our
> protection of
> > > Kuwait against Iraq, but they are not democracies, and therefore
> also
> > > allow anti-American feelings among their (mostly down-trodden)
> people to
> > > continue bubbling up, diverting attention from their own
regimes.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > DanG
> > >
> > >
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