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Norman  If you read post below there was no 
mention of fuel cells....I was talking about Nuclear not fuel 
cells.......   :-)
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  Norman 
  Winski 
  To: <A 
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  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:54 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
  Oil
  
  Dorothy,
   
    The only waste product from hydrogen fuel 
  cells is water vapor. 
   
  Cheers,
  Norman
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    <A href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx"; 
    title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy Carter 
    To: <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:07 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
    Oil
    
    Yes, and the same greenies that we use to 
    see in the airports hugging trees and hating nukes are now embracing nuclear 
    over oil....... how short our memories are.  France and other countries 
    have successfully used nuclear without incident...... the bigger issue is 
    what do you do with the waste.... if you put it into the Atlantic or pacific 
    ocean then someday you better not order Salmon dinner or Halibut steak 
    as Halibut are bottom fish..... so while we may have to resort in the 
    interim to nuclear plants we are creating a problem for the next generation 
    as far as disposing of the waste... somehow the big bad oil companies don't 
    seem like such villains................
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      title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wavemechanic 
      To: <A 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 
      8:44 PM
      Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
      Oil
      
      Dorothy:
       
      Several years ago, the DoE was advised to 
      maintain expertise in nuclear energy so that when the first city goes cold 
      and dark the country would not have to reinvent the wheel in order to get 
      going.  Looks like we are just about there.
       
      Bill
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        <A href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx"; 
        title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy K. Carter 
        To: <A 
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        title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 
        4:24 PM
        Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
        Oil
        AMEN....Up until 1 yr ago... I lived in Anchorage Alaska 
        for 27yrs. and itis taking this disaster to get the greenies to 
        figure out the importance ofhaving domestic oil supply vs being so 
        dependant on foreign oil.. It hasbeen a smart decision made my U.S. 
        govt to import foreign oil while theprice of crude oil is was low 
        priced and to save ours for a time when theprice would be 
        high.  It is apparant that .. that time is possibly upon us.I 
        can assure you that the pipeline does no harm to the environment... 
        infact the grass and voilage around and under the pipeline 
        flourishes from thewarmth... and the caribou migrate close to the 
        pipeline because of thewarmth...  Alaskans during the last oil 
        embargo use to have a saying towardthe people in the lower 48 who 
        were anti Alaskan oil development..... "letthe bas----ds freeze in 
        the dark".. well folks... it appears that.... thattime might be upon 
        us if we can't get the politicians to understand theimportance of 
        having ability to develop our natural resources and to havethe 
        refineries to bring the product to the consumer.....----- Original 
        Message -----From: "Gila Brock" <<A 
        href="mailto:brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: 
        <<A 
        href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: 
        Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PMSubject: Re: [RT] show your 
        colors/ Oil> This article was written by Joseph Farah, an 
        Arab-American journalist, not> an Israeli:>> The 
        Wakeup Call>> Joseph Farah> September 13, 
        2001>> America got its long-awaited, long-anticipated and 
        long-dreaded wakeupcall.>> The terror war came home in 
        a big way Tuesday, Sept. 11.>> Everything has changed. 
        Nothing will be the same, again.>> Just look at the impact 
        the slaughter and destruction had on George W.Bush> and Colin 
        Powell, for instance.>> For months, as Israel has faced, 
        on a daily basis, similar terrorincidents> carried out by 
        people living within its very borders, Bush and Powell have> told 
        the Israelis over and over again: "Show restraint. Negotiate. 
        Don'tuse> excessive force. Don't retaliate. Break the cycle 
        of violence.">> Yet, within hours of the blitzkrieg attack 
        on the World Trade Center and> Pentagon and the dramatic 
        hijacking of four airliners, the Bush-Powelltune> had 
        changed.>> There was no talk of restraint. There was no 
        talk of negotiation. Therewas> no worry about excessive 
        force. There was a promise of retaliation. Andwe,> as a 
        nation, were assured that we would not lay down in hopes 
        theattackers> would be satisfied with their blood 
        toll.>> Bush, in fact, asserted he would hold any nation 
        harboring the terrorists> accountable for their actions. Israel 
        has been coaxed and bullied by the> U.S. to do precisely the 
        opposite.>> Now the U.S. administration says it is 
        outraged and is determined to> "punish" those responsible for 
        "the attack on freedom.">> I'm glad to hear it. And, far 
        be it for me to question the sudden good> judgment being shown in 
        Washington. But it's illustrative of what I have> been saying for 
        the last year. The U.S. has been asking Israel to maintain> an 
        untenable course of inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to 
        ensure> that terrorism would spread beyond the Middle East to the 
        shores of theU.S.> through its shaky, equivocal, timid, 
        impotent, weak, half-way measures in> the face of Israel's 
        constant battle with terror.>> Does Bush really get it? 
        Will he follow through on his own promise? Willhis> demands 
        on Israel change? Does he plan to follow his own advice?>> 
        Who knows? Time will tell. But Americans would do well to remember 
        this> moment - to reflect on the pain, to recall this mourning. 
        This is what> Israel has been enduring in its own less dramatic 
        way - day after day,drip> after drip, explosion after bloody 
        explosion.>> Let me go further. We hear many pundits and 
        administration spokesmennaming> names - Sudan, Afghanistan, 
        Iran, Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one of them> mention the home 
        state of the chief suspect - Osama bin Laden.>> He's not 
        an Afghani, by the way. He's a Saudi - and that's where 
        hissupport> comes from. That's where his money comes from. 
        That's his lifeline -> oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi 
        Arabia.>> Is Washington prepared to issue ultimatums to 
        Mecca? If not, why not?>> The answer, of course, is oil - 
        which is why as a matter of national> strategic defense, America 
        needs to do what is necessary to achieve energy> independence as 
        quickly as possible. Wars do tend to get messy, you know.> And 
        America has the natural resources to be independent of Mideast 
        oil.>> To do so, however, we've got to decide as a nation 
        whether we are more> scared of radical environmentalists or 
        radical Muslims. That's the choice> before us.>> In 
        a very real sense, we can look at the tens of thousands of 
        casualtiesin> Tuesday's horror as casualties of the radical 
        environmentalists, who have> persuaded Americans they would be 
        better off dependent on foreign oil than> on marring the 
        landscape or causing undue stress in the elk.>> It's time 
        to get serious, folks. This is war. We don't fight wars with> 
        people who control our vital natural resources. But we may have to fight 
        a> war with the people supplying us with oil. What are we going 
        to do about> that?>> Americans may be called to 
        sacrifice. I think they're ready for such acall.> They 
        watched the devastation on TV Tuesday. They will rise to theoccasion 
        -> if their leaders in Washington ask them to do 
        so.>> It's a time for sacrifices. That means even the elk 
        in Alaska may need to> lose a few acres of real estate for the 
        greater good - saving the lives of> 
        Americans.>>>> ----- Original Message 
        -----> From: Daniel Goncharoff <<A 
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        To: <<A 
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        Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] 
        show your colors/ Oil>>> > In the interest of 
        helping people to know their enemy better, I want to> > 
        express my opinion based on research over the last year that the 
        main> > 'provocation' the US has committed against Islam is 
        its continued> > presence in Saudi Arabia, which is seen as 
        hallowed ground by Muslims.> >> > I take this from 
        translations of speeches by Osama Bin Laden, which are> > much 
        more available from European sources, eg the UK press, then they> 
        > are from US sources.> >> > Many Americans are 
        perhaps deceived by the focus in the US press on> > other Arab 
        nations that are extremely vocal in their opposition to> > 
        Israel and, accordingly, to its strong ally the US. Most of 
        these> > governments are, in fact, supportive of the US due to 
        our protection of> > Kuwait against Iraq, but they are not 
        democracies, and therefore also> > allow anti-American 
        feelings among their (mostly down-trodden) people to> > 
        continue bubbling up, diverting attention from their own 
        regimes.> >> > Regards> > DanG> 
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