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Yes, and the same greenies that we use to see in 
the airports hugging trees and hating nukes are now embracing nuclear over 
oil....... how short our memories are.  France and other countries have 
successfully used nuclear without incident...... the bigger issue is what do you 
do with the waste.... if you put it into the Atlantic or pacific ocean then 
someday you better not order Salmon dinner or  Halibut steak as Halibut  
are bottom fish..... so while we may have to resort in the interim to nuclear 
plants we are creating a problem for the next generation as far as disposing of 
the waste... somehow the big bad oil companies don't seem like such 
villains................
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  Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
  Oil
  
  Dorothy:
   
  Several years ago, the DoE was advised to maintain 
  expertise in nuclear energy so that when the first city goes cold and dark the 
  country would not have to reinvent the wheel in order to get going.  
  Looks like we are just about there.
   
  Bill
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    To: <A 
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    Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:24 
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    Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
    Oil
    AMEN....Up until 1 yr ago... I lived in Anchorage Alaska for 
    27yrs. and itis taking this disaster to get the greenies to figure out 
    the importance ofhaving domestic oil supply vs being so dependant on 
    foreign oil.. It hasbeen a smart decision made my U.S. govt to import 
    foreign oil while theprice of crude oil is was low priced and to save 
    ours for a time when theprice would be high.  It is apparant that 
    .. that time is possibly upon us.I can assure you that the pipeline does 
    no harm to the environment... infact the grass and voilage around and 
    under the pipeline flourishes from thewarmth... and the caribou migrate 
    close to the pipeline because of thewarmth...  Alaskans during the 
    last oil embargo use to have a saying towardthe people in the lower 48 
    who were anti Alaskan oil development..... "letthe bas----ds freeze in 
    the dark".. well folks... it appears that.... thattime might be upon us 
    if we can't get the politicians to understand theimportance of having 
    ability to develop our natural resources and to havethe refineries to 
    bring the product to the consumer.....----- Original Message 
    -----From: "Gila Brock" <<A 
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    <<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: 
    Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PMSubject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ 
    Oil> This article was written by Joseph Farah, an 
    Arab-American journalist, not> an Israeli:>> The Wakeup 
    Call>> Joseph Farah> September 13, 2001>> 
    America got its long-awaited, long-anticipated and long-dreaded 
    wakeupcall.>> The terror war came home in a big way 
    Tuesday, Sept. 11.>> Everything has changed. Nothing will be 
    the same, again.>> Just look at the impact the slaughter and 
    destruction had on George W.Bush> and Colin Powell, for 
    instance.>> For months, as Israel has faced, on a daily basis, 
    similar terrorincidents> carried out by people living within its 
    very borders, Bush and Powell have> told the Israelis over and over 
    again: "Show restraint. Negotiate. Don'tuse> excessive force. 
    Don't retaliate. Break the cycle of violence.">> Yet, within 
    hours of the blitzkrieg attack on the World Trade Center and> 
    Pentagon and the dramatic hijacking of four airliners, the 
    Bush-Powelltune> had changed.>> There was no talk 
    of restraint. There was no talk of negotiation. Therewas> no 
    worry about excessive force. There was a promise of retaliation. 
    Andwe,> as a nation, were assured that we would not lay down in 
    hopes theattackers> would be satisfied with their blood 
    toll.>> Bush, in fact, asserted he would hold any nation 
    harboring the terrorists> accountable for their actions. Israel has 
    been coaxed and bullied by the> U.S. to do precisely the 
    opposite.>> Now the U.S. administration says it is outraged 
    and is determined to> "punish" those responsible for "the attack on 
    freedom.">> I'm glad to hear it. And, far be it for me to 
    question the sudden good> judgment being shown in Washington. But 
    it's illustrative of what I have> been saying for the last year. The 
    U.S. has been asking Israel to maintain> an untenable course of 
    inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to ensure> that terrorism 
    would spread beyond the Middle East to the shores of theU.S.> 
    through its shaky, equivocal, timid, impotent, weak, half-way measures 
    in> the face of Israel's constant battle with terror.>> 
    Does Bush really get it? Will he follow through on his own promise? 
    Willhis> demands on Israel change? Does he plan to follow his own 
    advice?>> Who knows? Time will tell. But Americans would do 
    well to remember this> moment - to reflect on the pain, to recall 
    this mourning. This is what> Israel has been enduring in its own less 
    dramatic way - day after day,drip> after drip, explosion after 
    bloody explosion.>> Let me go further. We hear many pundits 
    and administration spokesmennaming> names - Sudan, Afghanistan, 
    Iran, Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one of them> mention the home 
    state of the chief suspect - Osama bin Laden.>> He's not an 
    Afghani, by the way. He's a Saudi - and that's where hissupport> 
    comes from. That's where his money comes from. That's his lifeline -> 
    oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi Arabia.>> Is Washington prepared to 
    issue ultimatums to Mecca? If not, why not?>> The answer, of 
    course, is oil - which is why as a matter of national> strategic 
    defense, America needs to do what is necessary to achieve energy> 
    independence as quickly as possible. Wars do tend to get messy, you 
    know.> And America has the natural resources to be independent of 
    Mideast oil.>> To do so, however, we've got to decide as a 
    nation whether we are more> scared of radical environmentalists or 
    radical Muslims. That's the choice> before us.>> In a 
    very real sense, we can look at the tens of thousands of 
    casualtiesin> Tuesday's horror as casualties of the radical 
    environmentalists, who have> persuaded Americans they would be better 
    off dependent on foreign oil than> on marring the landscape or 
    causing undue stress in the elk.>> It's time to get serious, 
    folks. This is war. We don't fight wars with> people who control our 
    vital natural resources. But we may have to fight a> war with the 
    people supplying us with oil. What are we going to do about> 
    that?>> Americans may be called to sacrifice. I think they're 
    ready for such acall.> They watched the devastation on TV 
    Tuesday. They will rise to theoccasion -> if their leaders in 
    Washington ask them to do so.>> It's a time for sacrifices. 
    That means even the elk in Alaska may need to> lose a few acres of 
    real estate for the greater good - saving the lives of> 
    Americans.>>>> ----- Original Message 
    -----> From: Daniel Goncharoff <<A 
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    <<A 
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    Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] show 
    your colors/ Oil>>> > In the interest of helping 
    people to know their enemy better, I want to> > express my opinion 
    based on research over the last year that the main> > 
    'provocation' the US has committed against Islam is its continued> 
    > presence in Saudi Arabia, which is seen as hallowed ground by 
    Muslims.> >> > I take this from translations of speeches 
    by Osama Bin Laden, which are> > much more available from European 
    sources, eg the UK press, then they> > are from US 
    sources.> >> > Many Americans are perhaps deceived by 
    the focus in the US press on> > other Arab nations that are 
    extremely vocal in their opposition to> > Israel and, accordingly, 
    to its strong ally the US. Most of these> > governments are, in 
    fact, supportive of the US due to our protection of> > Kuwait 
    against Iraq, but they are not democracies, and therefore also> > 
    allow anti-American feelings among their (mostly down-trodden) people 
    to> > continue bubbling up, diverting attention from their own 
    regimes.> >> > Regards> > DanG> 
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