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--- In realtraders@xxxx, "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxx> wrote:
> Bobr,
>
> Thanks for the map so I can plan my next vacation. Where are the
discos?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Norman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BobR" <bobrabcd@xxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Your colors - Our enemy.
>
>
> > The attached chart shows what would be hit if Kabul is bombed.
Notice the
> > Russian and British Embassies are located furthest from the
center of the
> > city. There is nothing strategic there that justifies bombing.
This is
> > going to have to be a bush war for sure.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Thompson" <detomps@xxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 2:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Your colors - Our enemy.
> >
> >
> > > Jeff,
> > > It is very frustrating, Japan still after 50 years has
Imperialist
> > Military
> > > cults ....
> > >
> > > One of the things that might work, I'd try buying them out,
Like since
> a
> > > country is so damn poor and in shambles .... then you have to
ask what
> > would
> > > 10 billion dollars do to Afganistan? Might be a nice the first
shall be
> > the
> > > last and the last shall be the first kind of operation.. That
is an
> > option,
> > > but.. who in the hell knows.. Running the military in such a
situation
> is
> > > like squashing an American slum with 105 mm howizters... And
these
> asshole
> > > Taliban and Bin Laden people will hole up there. Totally
frustrating.
> So
> > I
> > > guess the American leadership needs a new manual
> > > how to fight a coward on his own terms..
> > > No easy answers..
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeffrey Harteam" <jharteam@xxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:22 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] Your colors - Our enemy.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Greeting Don and ALL:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the nice post. I too remembered few years ago
regarding the
> > war
> > > > between Afganistan and the Soviet. Back then, I personally
judged and
> > > felt the
> > > > plight of the Afghans. And I could still remember my anger
towards
> the
> > > > Russians. I felt this way a few years back and I cannot see
why I
> should
> > > change
> > > > my view about these Afghans now. But having said that, IMHO,
> resolution
> > > by
> > > > force is a must towards these terrorist establishments. As one
> Canadian
> > > fellow
> > > > trader put it, "This is damn too much". Resolving the matter
through
> > > diplomatic
> > > > channels ONLY work when the counter party has a true sense of
value
> > > towards
> > > > life. Obviously and proven time after time in the past, life
is cheap
> > and
> > > > absolutely has no meaning to these S.O.Bs. US is not alone
this time
> to
> > > deal
> > > > with these evil forces. The feelings, anger and
determinations are
> very
> > > much in
> > > > sync with the United States throughout most the asia pacific
rims and
> > most
> > > of
> > > > the major European developed nations as well. When I saw on
tv these
> > kids
> > > and
> > > > women celebrating on the streets somewhere in the Middle East
after
> the
> > > > destruction of the WTCs, I felt so sick of watching
these "human
> > beings".
> > > When
> > > > these kids grow up, there will be another batch of terrorists
all too
> > > ready and
> > > > eager to go for another building in some major cities around
the
> world.
> > I
> > > > concluded to myself: Men, women and kids make no difference
when it
> > comes
> > > to
> > > > evil deeds. They are all in the same category. Honestly, I
feel shame
> to
> > > make
> > > > such conclusion but this is the reality to me. Regards.
> > > >
> > > > Take care and God Bless to All
> > > > Jeff Harteam
> > > > Hong Kong
> > > >
> > > > Don Thompson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hmmm, sounds like the same old Left-Right hup hup hup
hup....
> > > > > Gentlemen, here's another view of the world and the
intention of the
> > > Enemy
> > > > > and ...... the land in which he lives.
> > > > > I got this forwarded to me by my wife. Something to put
into your
> > mind
> > > and
> > > > > think about with all this free time until the Market
opens. Got to
> > come
> > > up
> > > > > with creative mind boggling solutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Don Thompson
> > > > >
> > > > > >Subject: [Fwd: Great article about afghanistan/taliban/bin
laden]
> > > > > One of our colleague posted the following article and it
really
> shows
> > > > > theplight of the real Afghans.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Imran
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Friends,
> > > > > The following was sent to me by my friend Tamim Ansary.
Tamim is
> > > > > an Afghani-American writer. He is also one of the most
brilliant
> > people
> > > > > I know in this life. When he writes, I read. When he
talks, I
> > listen.
> > > > > Here is his take on Afghanistan and the whole mess we are
in.
> > > > > -Gary T.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Gary and whoever else is on this email thread:
> > > > > I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan
back to
> > > > > the Stone Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today,
allowed that
> this
> > > > > would mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing
to do
> with
> > > > > this atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept
collateral
> damage.
> > > > > What else can we do?" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit
> discussing
> > > > > whether we "have the belly to do what must be done."
> > > > > And I thought about the issues being raised especially
hard because
> > > > > I am from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for
35 years
> > I've
> > > > > never lost track of what's going on there. So I want to
tell anyone
> > who
> > > > > will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing.
> > > > > I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden.
There is
> no
> > > > > doubt in my mind that these people were responsible for the
atrocity
> > > > > in New York. I agree that something must be done about those
> monsters.
> > > > > But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're
not even
> > > > > the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of
ignorant
> > > > > psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a
> political
> > > > > criminal
> > > > > with a plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you
think
> Bin
> > > > > Laden, think Hitler. And when you think "the people of
Afghanistan"
> > > think
> > > > > "the Jews in the concentration camps." It's not only that
the
> Afghan
> > > > > people had nothing to do with this atrocity.
> > > > > They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would
exult if
> > > > > someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear
out the
> > rats
> > > > > nest of international thugs holed up in their country.
> > > > > Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the
Taliban?
> The
> > > > > answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated,
> suffering.
> > > > > A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there
are 500,000
> > > > > disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy,
no food.
> > > > > There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been
burying
> these
> > > > > widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with
land mines,
> > the
> > > > > farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few
of the
> > reasons
> > > > > why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban.
> > > > > We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to
the Stone
> > > > > Age. Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of
it
> > already.
> > > > > Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level
their
> > houses?
> > > > > Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done.
Eradicate
> their
> > > > > hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them
off from
> > > > > medicine
> > > > > and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that.
> > > > >
> > > > > New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs.
Would they
> at
> > > > > least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan,
only the
> > > > > Taliban eat, only they have the means to move around.
They'd slip
> > away
> > > and
> > > > > hide.
> > > > > Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans,
they don't
> > > > > move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying
over
> Kabul
> > > > > and dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the
criminals
> > > > > who did this horrific thing. Actually it would only be
making common
> > > > > cause with the Taliban--by raping once again the people
they've been
> > > > > raping all this time
> > > > > So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now
speak with
> > > > > true fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is
to go in
> > there
> > > > > with ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly
to do
> what
> > > > > needs to be done" they're thinking in terms of having the
belly to
> > kill
> > > > > as many as needed. Having the belly to overcome any moral
qualms
> > about
> > > > > killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of the
sand.
> What's
> > > > > actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just
because some
> > > > > Americans
> > > > > would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to Bin
Laden's
> > hideout.
> > > > > It's much bigger than that folks. Because to get any troops
to
> > > Afghanistan,
> > > > > We'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not
likely. The
> > > > > conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. Will other
Muslim
> > nations
> > > just
> > > > > stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting with a
world war
> > > between
> > > > > Islam and the West.
> > > > > And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly
what he
> > > wants.
> > > > > That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements.
It's all
> > > right
> > > > > there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It
might seem
> > > > > ridiculous,
> > > > > but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and
the West,
> > > > > he's got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a
holocaust in
> those
> > > > > lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to lose,
that's
> even
> > > > > better from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably
wrong, in the
> > end
> > > > > the west would win, whatever that would mean, but the war
would last
> > > > > for years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours.
Who has
> > the
> > > > > belly for that? Bin Laden does. Anyone else?
> > > > > Tamim Ansary
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:30 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Sonny, I have a better idea. Why don't we throw the
liberals
> > out
> > > of
> > > > > > >> office. How do you identify a liberal? It's easy:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> * they cut the military budget
> > > > > > >> * ignore the absolute disaster in our immigration
policy
> > > > > > >> * force diversity down our throats
> > > > > > >> * destroy our schools by increasing spending with all
the
> > > > > > >> money going to diversity and sex programs
> > > > > > >> * seek to pacify and endlessly negotiate with our
enemies
> > > > > > >> * and politicize every issue instead of thinking
what's best
> for
> > > > > > >> America.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> I love this country, but I'm disgusted with the jerks
we send
> to
> > > > > govern
> > > > > > >> us. Just look at this jerk Gary Condit, and I think
he's a
> > member
> > > of
> > > > > or
> > > > > > >> chairman of a defense committee. Ask yourself: why is
this
> > > low-life
> > > > > > >> still getting support from his constituents and many
of his
> > party
> > > > > > >> members? Flying flags is an effort for a week, but
paying
> > > attention to
> > > > > > >> who we vote for is a full-time effort, and it's one
we have to
> > > take
> > > > > on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Ralph
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ralph, before you blow a gasket, a reminder or two:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (1) one of the "jerks" that govern us approved $43
million in aid
> to
> > > > > > afghanistan & the taliban just a few months ago.
it's a
> simple
> > > > > > web search. guess who it was?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (2) we have something called voting in this country. you
have
> > exactly
> > > > > > ONE of them. the rest of the people in this country
likewise
> > each
> > > > > > have one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - *lk
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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