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Re: [RT] Mentors:What makes a good Mentor



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Aurthur, this is one of the best posts I have seen on RT. Also, Don 
Thompson pointed else pointed out that if the teacher can't produce some 
brokerage statements, forget it. Thats also great advice. Only fair that you 
should be able to prove you can walk the talk before you charge for it. 
 
On the other side of the coin, show me someone who thinks trading is easy, 
and I'll show you someone who can't trade. Show me someone who wants something 
for nothing, and I'll show you someone who will never have the mindset to trade. 
Show me someone who constantly criticizes others, and I'll show you a very 
frustrated wannabe trader. If you can show the bro statements fire away. Your 
qualified. Otherwise don't throw the stones and then hide. 
 
After you've traded for a lot of years, believe me there are times you need 
a break. Being a teacher can provide those respites. It risk free and stress 
free, and provides a lot of liesure time. Just be prepared to show that you can 
and have done it successfully with real money. 
 
 
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  Arthur 
  Marcus 
  To: <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 6:41 
PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] Mentors:What makes a 
  good Mentor
  
   If you're seeking the "Holy Grail", if you want a system which 
  promises vast fortunes with only 15 minutes of work after the market 
  closes or a line of code that pops up blue for buys, red for sells, maybe 
  you're on a dead-end quest and destined to only find "mentors" who want your 
  money.  But rather than the Holy Grail, if you're seeking a way to make a 
  good living, there are mentors out there who can help.  There are those 
  even on this list who will offer their knowledge (many of them do, right here, 
  for free).  But with that quest, ask *yourself* these questions: 
  Am I willing to put in a long period of apprenticeship while I learn a 
  methodology?Am I willing to come home from the "day job" and put in long 
  hours studying charts, indicators, historical data, etc. as I put the pieces 
  together?Am I willing to stay up well into the night and give up weekends 
  to study?Am I willing to give up time with my family and friends, time 
  which is necessary if I'm to learn the method (and I mean a lot of 
  time)?Am I willing to forego the weekly golf game, a good dinner 
  engagement, the favorite TV show or the NBA finals, because the time is 
  needed to learn the method?Am I willing to lose perhaps a little more 
  money in the markets as I test my new method and I'm not "getting it."?  
  (To me, one of the keys to a "real" mentor is whether or not he/she will stay 
  with you after the initial work begins or do they impart some facts, and 
  disappear.  A mentor in other studies is constantly there to answer 
  further questions.  Mentoring isn't a one-time t hing.)And are you so 
  sure you can learn someone else's method.  Just because the mentor put in 
  thousands of hours figuring something out, can you do it too?
  Most true teachers/mentors are on a constant search for knowledge. Even 
  when successful, they're still looking for more and better ways.  Their 
  research has led them to a way to trade the markets successfully.  A true 
  mentor will share the "way" to get that knowledge, not hand it to you on a 
  silver plate (which can't be done). 
  The cost of a private college education and law school or medical 
  school is over $200,000 these days.  How much are you willing to pay 
  to learn to make a living trading? 
   
    Prosper <brente@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
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    heard the money for instruction discussion both pro and con for about 
    9years that I've been involved. On the one hand, if someone truely had 
    a"holy grail," how much would it be worth? On the other hand most of the 
    freementoring will be worth what it cost. If anyone of you spent 10 or 
    20 yearsfinding the HG and were finally successful, would you give it to 
    anyone thatwanted it for free? How much would you charge for something 
    that could makesomeone 200 million?No one can teach true knack 
    no matter how much money you can pay, even ifthe teacher has knack. I 
    use pro sports as a comparison, how many will makethe pros and how many 
    will be a household name? It is similar in tradingalthough no trader has 
    ever become a household name to my knowledge.Before anyone gets a 
    mentor to train them, they should investigate them inevery way thats 
    reasonable. They may want to fin d both those persons thatlike them and 
    those that don't, because hearing only one side of the storyis a good 
    way to get taken.ProsperTo unsubscribe 
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