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Re: [RT] Re: Fibo Research



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Anybody know when size begins to get you some gravy in the bond pit or other
commodity pits? I.E. 5 contracts, 10 contracts, 50, 100?

Prosper


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ira Tunik" <irat@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Fibo Research


> The other thing to remember on the NYSE is that size takes precedent.  So
if you
> are looking to buy 500 or 1000 shares the big boys get filled first and if
> everything is gone when they get down to you, so be it.  In the case of
the
> Nasdaq, if and when they answer the phone you could get a fill.
>
> BobR wrote:
>
> > So what you are saying is the change in liquidity is always there,
right,
> > but at what price, that's what causes the price trend change.  So
> > theoretically if you monitored the bid and ask volume you might see
this?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Duffy" <joeduffy@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RT] Re: Fibo Research
> >
> > > I wish it were otherwise, but unfortunately its just like Neal says.
> > > Sometimes just before a turn, the liquidity is good but at the turn
its
> > not
> > > usually. If you have ever been to the pit, sometimes there is a a tiny
> > spec
> > > of silence before a market will turn. The last seller has sold sort of
> > thing
> > > I guess.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Dan Harels <harelsdb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RT] Re: Fibo Research
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Liquidity can be a real problem.
> > > > >
> > > > >When you are right, you struggle to get a fill, because there
> > > > >is a lot of competition for the liquidity at turning points. When
> > > > >you are wrong, it is very easy to get a fill..
> > > > >
> > > > >when you are nailing market turning points, you find
> > > > >there isn't enough liquidity..
> > > > >
> > > > >Neal
> > > >
> > > > This statement seems counterintuitive to me.  At turning points,
there
> > is
> > > a
> > > > balance between buyers and sellers and liquidity should be at its
> > > greatest.
> > > > When a market is trending, buyers and sellers are out of balance and
the
> > > > market moves.  Are we talking about the same thing?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Dan
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