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Chris,

Why didn't you just buy Alphee's program?  then you wouldn't have had to
program an
ephemeris and you would get a query engine to boot.  No criticism just
wondering.  I don't
have the guy's program wisht I did..
don
Subject: [RT] Re: An untimely death


> Hi Tim,
>
> I wrote a bunch of C code that I put into a DLL and
> call from TradeStation. I put in the ability to use
> both helio and geocentric, declination, and latitude.
> I added the ability to generate time & date of exact
> aspects of any planet/asteroid to any other, as well
> as aspects by orb.  I also added lunar apogees &
> perigees, planets in signs, retrograde planets, and
> planetary lines.
>
> I have not done extensive testing, because my toolset
> is new.  I only started working on it last fall, and I
> work a day-job as a programmer so my time is limited.
> I hope to get some more time after my current project
> winds up this summer.
>
> Chris
>
> >
> > Hello Chris,
> >
> >         When you refer to using astrology,  what did
> > you find?  Were you
> > coding your own, calling "C' modules, or using
> > add-ons to tradestation?  Did
> > you test with helio, geo and declination cycles or
> > some combo of them?.
> > Hope you don't mind me asking these questions.  Did
> > you followup on previous
> > work, like Donald Bradley etc.?    Thanks for
> > whatever info you'd be willing
> > to share.
> >           Happy trading , Tim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris McMurry <chrismcmurry@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 5:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: An untimely death
> >
> >
> > > It's not that there is no astro system.  The
> > problem is that the systems
> > > are not at all trivial to code.  One can blithely
> > post a system such as
> > >
> > > If Average(Close, 40) crosses above Average(Close,
> > 200) Then
> > >     Buy At Market;
> > >
> > > because it's so dang easy to code.  I have written
> > systems that use
> > > astrology, and I am not going to just post the
> > code, because it's
> > > hundreds of hours worth of work!
> > >
> > > So why don't I just post the idea behind a system,
> > i.e., buy when the
> > > Moon trines Mars?  Because that's not the way to
> > trade astro, IMO.  It's
> > > best used as a timing adjunct to other technical
> > methodologies.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > wavemechanic wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ztrader: You are asking for a system when there
> > is no system.  That
> > > > does not mean that the approach is wrong.  If
> > the bottom line is OK
> > > > then it is OK.  Many trade without a rigid
> > system, but rather with the
> > > > requirement that there be a convergence of a
> > variety of indicators.
> > > > Nothing that is expressed mathematically, and
> > undoubtedly executed in
> > > > part subconsciously without the rigor of visible
> > logic, but it works.
> > > > Although I do not use astro stuff, I operate in
> > this manner, and my
> > > > guess is that Haytham does also (Haytham correct
> > me if I
> > > > misrepresenting your position).  If you want to
> > reduce such trading to
> > > > a system you will have to study successful
> > traders that operate in
> > > > this manner and develop a system that reproduces
> > their actions.  It is
> > > > your responsibility not theirs to reduce their
> > trading technique to
> > > > mathematical system, if you want to study and/or
> > use such a system.
> > > > There is more than one way to skin a cat. Bill
> > > >
> > > >      ----- Original Message -----
> > > >      From:ztrader
> > > >      To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >      Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:09 PM
> > > >      Subject: Re: [RT] Re: An untimely death
> > > >       On Tuesday, May 01, 2001, 7:13:19 PM,
> > Haytham Albizem
> > > >      wrote:
> > > >
> > > >      HA> What I am trying to say, there is no
> > simple way to solve
> > > >      the issue
> > > >      HA> of trading system:
> > > >
> > > >      I was not insisting that it be simple. I
> > was looking for a
> > > >      simple
> > > >      astro system just as a start, to get a
> > quantitative idea of
> > > >      the kinds
> > > >      of 'indicators' and logical processes used
> > in astro.
> > > >
> > > >      HA> Here part of what I look in my anaysis
> > on a single
> > > >      stock:
> > > >
> > > >      <snip lots of stuff>
> > > >
> > > >      This is a very large number of items. If
> > you use all of
> > > >      them, how do
> > > >      you combine them? If not, how do you select
> > those to use for
> > > >      a
> > > >      particular trade?
> > > >
> > > >      HA> FORECAST TOOLS
> > > >
> > > >      HA>   1.. FOURIER ANALYSIS
> > > >      HA>   2.. TIME AND PRICE CLUSTER
> > > >      HA>   3.. GANN ANGLES AND SQUARES WITH
> > PLANETARY MOVEMENTS
> > > >      AND ASPECTS
> > > >      HA>   4.. RSI DIVERGENCE
> > > >      HA>   5.. MACD DIVERGENCE
> > > >      HA>   6.. CANDLSTICK PATTERNS
> > > >      HA>   7.. MA
> > > >      HA>   8.. S/R
> > > >      HA>   9.. BRADLY MODEL
> > > >      HA>   10.. PATTERNS
> > > >      HA>   11.. ELLIOT WAVE
> > > >      HA>   12.. SUPER TIMING TECHNIQUE
> > > >
> > > >      There seem to many non-astro techniques on
> > the list. What is
> > > >      the
> > > >      relative value of the astro versus the
> > non-astro parts? The
> > > >      non-astro
> > > >      parts can be quantified easily and checked.
> > What do we check
> > > >      for the
> > > >      astro parts?
> > > >
> > > >      HA> In summery, I look at EVERYTHING and
> > after looking at
> > > >      EVERYTHING
> > > >      HA> this creat a beutifull picture in my
> > mind.
> > > >
> > > >      Yep. 'System' people might call this
> > pattern recognition.
> > > >      They would
> > > >      ask what steps you do in your mind to make
> > this pattern
> > > >      apparent. This
> > > >      is sometimes difficult, and people often do
> > not consciously
> > > >      know what
> > > >      they really do. The 'knowledge engineering'
> > needed to get
> > > >      from a
> > > >      'picture' to a computer algorithm is very
> > often long and
> > > >      hard.
> > > >
> > > >      HA> This is how I trade, I am sorry if I
> > disappont you.
> > > >
> > > >      *You* do not disappoint me at all. I may be
> > disappointed
> > > >      that this is
> > > >      not an example of an astro 'system', but I
> > really DO
> > > >      appreciate your
> > > >      comments and descriptions. I am hoping we
> > can finally bridge
> > > >      the gap.
> > > >
> > > >      Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >      ztrader
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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