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Hi Tim,

I wrote a bunch of C code that I put into a DLL and
call from TradeStation. I put in the ability to use
both helio and geocentric, declination, and latitude. 
I added the ability to generate time & date of exact
aspects of any planet/asteroid to any other, as well
as aspects by orb.  I also added lunar apogees &
perigees, planets in signs, retrograde planets, and
planetary lines.

I have not done extensive testing, because my toolset
is new.  I only started working on it last fall, and I
work a day-job as a programmer so my time is limited. 
I hope to get some more time after my current project
winds up this summer.

Chris

> 
> Hello Chris,
> 
>         When you refer to using astrology,  what did
> you find?  Were you
> coding your own, calling "C' modules, or using
> add-ons to tradestation?  Did
> you test with helio, geo and declination cycles or
> some combo of them?.
> Hope you don't mind me asking these questions.  Did
> you followup on previous
> work, like Donald Bradley etc.?    Thanks for
> whatever info you'd be willing
> to share.
>           Happy trading , Tim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris McMurry <chrismcmurry@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 5:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Re: An untimely death
> 
> 
> > It's not that there is no astro system.  The
> problem is that the systems
> > are not at all trivial to code.  One can blithely
> post a system such as
> >
> > If Average(Close, 40) crosses above Average(Close,
> 200) Then
> >     Buy At Market;
> >
> > because it's so dang easy to code.  I have written
> systems that use
> > astrology, and I am not going to just post the
> code, because it's
> > hundreds of hours worth of work!
> >
> > So why don't I just post the idea behind a system,
> i.e., buy when the
> > Moon trines Mars?  Because that's not the way to
> trade astro, IMO.  It's
> > best used as a timing adjunct to other technical
> methodologies.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > wavemechanic wrote:
> >
> > > Ztrader: You are asking for a system when there
> is no system.  That
> > > does not mean that the approach is wrong.  If
> the bottom line is OK
> > > then it is OK.  Many trade without a rigid
> system, but rather with the
> > > requirement that there be a convergence of a
> variety of indicators.
> > > Nothing that is expressed mathematically, and
> undoubtedly executed in
> > > part subconsciously without the rigor of visible
> logic, but it works.
> > > Although I do not use astro stuff, I operate in
> this manner, and my
> > > guess is that Haytham does also (Haytham correct
> me if I
> > > misrepresenting your position).  If you want to
> reduce such trading to
> > > a system you will have to study successful
> traders that operate in
> > > this manner and develop a system that reproduces
> their actions.  It is
> > > your responsibility not theirs to reduce their
> trading technique to
> > > mathematical system, if you want to study and/or
> use such a system.
> > > There is more than one way to skin a cat. Bill
> > >
> > >      ----- Original Message -----
> > >      From:ztrader
> > >      To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >      Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:09 PM
> > >      Subject: Re: [RT] Re: An untimely death
> > >       On Tuesday, May 01, 2001, 7:13:19 PM,
> Haytham Albizem
> > >      wrote:
> > >
> > >      HA> What I am trying to say, there is no
> simple way to solve
> > >      the issue
> > >      HA> of trading system:
> > >
> > >      I was not insisting that it be simple. I
> was looking for a
> > >      simple
> > >      astro system just as a start, to get a
> quantitative idea of
> > >      the kinds
> > >      of 'indicators' and logical processes used
> in astro.
> > >
> > >      HA> Here part of what I look in my anaysis
> on a single
> > >      stock:
> > >
> > >      <snip lots of stuff>
> > >
> > >      This is a very large number of items. If
> you use all of
> > >      them, how do
> > >      you combine them? If not, how do you select
> those to use for
> > >      a
> > >      particular trade?
> > >
> > >      HA> FORECAST TOOLS
> > >
> > >      HA>   1.. FOURIER ANALYSIS
> > >      HA>   2.. TIME AND PRICE CLUSTER
> > >      HA>   3.. GANN ANGLES AND SQUARES WITH
> PLANETARY MOVEMENTS
> > >      AND ASPECTS
> > >      HA>   4.. RSI DIVERGENCE
> > >      HA>   5.. MACD DIVERGENCE
> > >      HA>   6.. CANDLSTICK PATTERNS
> > >      HA>   7.. MA
> > >      HA>   8.. S/R
> > >      HA>   9.. BRADLY MODEL
> > >      HA>   10.. PATTERNS
> > >      HA>   11.. ELLIOT WAVE
> > >      HA>   12.. SUPER TIMING TECHNIQUE
> > >
> > >      There seem to many non-astro techniques on
> the list. What is
> > >      the
> > >      relative value of the astro versus the
> non-astro parts? The
> > >      non-astro
> > >      parts can be quantified easily and checked.
> What do we check
> > >      for the
> > >      astro parts?
> > >
> > >      HA> In summery, I look at EVERYTHING and
> after looking at
> > >      EVERYTHING
> > >      HA> this creat a beutifull picture in my
> mind.
> > >
> > >      Yep. 'System' people might call this
> pattern recognition.
> > >      They would
> > >      ask what steps you do in your mind to make
> this pattern
> > >      apparent. This
> > >      is sometimes difficult, and people often do
> not consciously
> > >      know what
> > >      they really do. The 'knowledge engineering'
> needed to get
> > >      from a
> > >      'picture' to a computer algorithm is very
> often long and
> > >      hard.
> > >
> > >      HA> This is how I trade, I am sorry if I
> disappont you.
> > >
> > >      *You* do not disappoint me at all. I may be
> disappointed
> > >      that this is
> > >      not an example of an astro 'system', but I
> really DO
> > >      appreciate your
> > >      comments and descriptions. I am hoping we
> can finally bridge
> > >      the gap.
> > >
> > >      Thanks,
> > >
> > >      ztrader
> > >
> > >
> > >
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