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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, it took a while to respond. I was
working the Ag Exposition in Spokane, WA. I hung a sign in the convention
arena, danced a monkey around on a string, and while the crowd was being
misdirected, I lifted all their wallets. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The fibonacci moving averages are posted for pure
amusement (you know, just like the monkey). I have a real simple mind and
I'm easily fooled. I'm totally amused by dropping a "fib" moving average
template on a chart and seeing all the little "coinky dinkies". Ton, I
like these averages. I think they're more fun than 10, 20, 50, 100 or
whatever makes you giggle. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I make my living (the wallet stealing part) by
employing a consistent, simple, mechanical system to all the markets that I
trade. This "system" features momentum oscillators. And, Oh God,</FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2> it has one or two or three (dare I say) "fibonacci numbers"
imbedded in the damn formula. "I mean the shame of it all!" Fib
numbers violating the integrity of a sound momentum oscillator.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton, you must have missed my stirring
historical review of Fibonacci's trip to Egypt, his lovers, and other
antidotes. It was all related to me in a bar in Detroit (circa 1981) by
one of his descended. I forget if it was Leno, Dino, or Nino Fibonacci
(three brothers who you want on your team when the chairs start
flying). If anyone still has that post, please share it with Ton.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Meanwhile, I'll be mechanically trading for a
friends, relatives, and a couple of guys whose names end with a vowel. And
Ton, shame on you if you use 13 in any of your formulas. Didn't you send
me a Linear Regression Oscillator that was peppered with the number 13.
Honestly, Ton, you should be ashamed of your behavior!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dancing the monkey on a string,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
A.J. Maas
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>RTList</A> ; <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Metastock-List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 12, 2000 4:25
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fib MA's and the
S&P</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sorry, Steve, could not resist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Which of the following is true:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Gann has got someting to do with the stock-exchanges,
Elliott has got something </FONT><FONT size=2>to do with </FONT><FONT
size=2>the stock-bourses,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the fib-fantasy-theory has got something to do with
</FONT><FONT size=2>the stock-market ?????</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Being related means (bloodlined/hooked/connected), doesn't
that make your indicators </FONT><FONT size=2>very ancient</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(800 years ago), eg at a time </FONT><FONT size=2>that
they might have worked and provided for the miracles </FONT><FONT
size=2>on the exchanges</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>back then ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Shit, they hadn't even started back than, eg the first
historical evidence of </FONT><FONT size=2>people trading and
betting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(taking options) </FONT><FONT size=2>on shipped
</FONT><FONT size=2>cargo loads + their </FONT><FONT size=2>arrival times
</FONT><FONT size=2>(eg the birth of the first </FONT><FONT size=2>public
outdoor held</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>exchange markets) appeared 'only' </FONT><FONT size=2>in the
</FONT><FONT size=2>very recent </FONT><FONT size=2>history, eg in the late
Golden Century</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(still some 300 years ago), and some well </FONT><FONT
size=2>over </FONT><FONT size=2>500 years later than when Fab saw his holy
Maria ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Oh well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Since modern times has revealed itself in that the
historical </FONT><FONT size=2>witch-hunts and other ku-klux-clan </FONT><FONT
size=2>alike stuff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>was </FONT><FONT size=2>due to mankind itself by
some men starting out hoaxes, eg by word of mouth, eg </FONT><FONT
size=2>one man</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> -out of anger swearing- </FONT><FONT size=2>would give
</FONT><FONT size=2>another person(woman) </FONT><FONT size=2>a nick-name, and
than suddenly </FONT><FONT size=2>all men believed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the hoax and than made out that </FONT><FONT
size=2>that </FONT><FONT size=2>person(woman) was also what that
</FONT><FONT size=2>name comprised </FONT><FONT size=2>and that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>therefore </FONT><FONT size=2>that person(woman) was also to
</FONT><FONT size=2>be put on the burning staple?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Eg, ain't it time you outgrow this childish
parroting stuff, that was thought to you by your master
parrots</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>at the CMT-course?</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>As of Jan 1st, 2000 my wage's paycheck got a 3% rise, does
that make (the rise/my employer/</FONT><FONT size=2>me) also</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>ancient + fib related, eg is (he, my employer/it, the
rise/me) therefore also a now a modern day version </FONT><FONT
size=2>of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the fib(ulous) natural miracle story ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>--------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Back to the markets:</DIV>
<DIV></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>What near future forcast can I get from these
ave's? How should I interpret them on your picture?</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>That is what was not so very clear.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>If any, I can see that there is a great bending
arch-movement </FONT><FONT size=2>bowing </FONT><FONT size=2>downwards by Mr
SPX , and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>done so within the horizontal trading ranges and is further
moving (sideways/down) in smaller up+down waves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>A</FONT><FONT size=2>nd since these ave's are not put on a
'simple + plain bar' chart also (bloom/hide) the fact
that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the </FONT><FONT size=2>7/8 fractal ma </FONT><FONT
size=2>solidly </FONT><FONT size=2>resides </FONT><FONT size=2>on a
</FONT><FONT size=2>much</FONT> <FONT size=2>lower level, eg on a
level than cannot be seen on </FONT><FONT size=2>your</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>'exponental + volume candled' </FONT><FONT size=2>chart.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Let alone shows where the also present and solid 3/2
fractal ma support (eg the SMA150) resides.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Here are the moves:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> near
Nov end - </FONT><FONT size=2>hitted </FONT><FONT size=2>the 1/8 fractal
ma (12.5)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
on Nov end - hitted the 1/4 fractal ma (25)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
mid Dec - hitted the 1/3 fractal ma (33.3)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
early Jan - hitted the 2/3 fractal ma (66.7)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
now solidly - due to hit the 7/8 fractal ma (87.5)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
near future - eventualy out to hit the solid 3/2 fractal ma
(150)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This is the stuff you will not get thought and will not ever
learn by continue fib-parrot-ing, eg this is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>home-brewed </FONT><FONT size=2>self-a-steam-ed </FONT><FONT
size=2>financial cooking working for you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This is, like your ma's, also not ever usefull stuff to ever
build a (solid) mechanical trade-system on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Only eye-balling can help the reader determine, this
also mostly afterwards, what the correct level</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>was/has been </FONT><FONT size=2>to (do/get out of) a
trade.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Above are</FONT> <FONT size=2>projections(targets)
only, (and/but) only history will tell if they shall all come
true.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>For that I kinda like your "Momentum play" signals better.
My mechinical momentum IMT/ST system</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>for that matter </FONT><FONT size=2>generated only for today
(0112) many sell signals, of which was one.........Mr SPX.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>And the buy signal got only generated last
Oct99..............................</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Knowing too, you to be a serious trader, and that my
scepticism towards that mediocre </FONT><FONT size=2>so
called</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>'natural wonders" based </FONT><FONT size=2>fib-theory is
also known to you, know that you will not (be/get) offended by my</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>at the </FONT><FONT size=2>top made
(silly/humorous/evidential) remarks.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss
the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and<BR>note the new
address change. Also for my Homepage<BR><A
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV
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<A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve
Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>RTList</A> ; <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> dinsdag 11 januari 2000
2:38</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fib MA's and the S&P</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sometimes weeks fly by and I don't always get
around to looking at all my 297 indicators, templates and layouts. As
a mechanical, contrarian, oscillator trader, I'd prefer not to be influenced
by the subjectivity of interpretive approaches (Gann, Elliot, etc.).
Thinking hurts my head. I'm all "thunk" out. I spent thousands
of hours refining my love: momentum oscillators (and it took it's toll
on my brain). Having said that...I do enjoy the "dance of the fib
averages". They offer great support and resistance areas...(or is
this just another hairy coincidence?).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, it took a while to respond. I was
working the Ag Exposition in Spokane, WA. I hung a sign in the convention
arena, danced a monkey around on a string, and while the crowd was being
misdirected, I lifted all their wallets. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The fibonacci moving averages are posted for pure
amusement (you know, just like the monkey). I have a real simple mind and
I'm easily fooled. I'm totally amused by dropping a "fib" moving average
template on a chart and seeing all the little "coinky dinkies". Ton, I
like these averages. I think they're more fun than 10, 20, 50, 100 or
whatever makes you giggle. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I make my living (the wallet stealing part) by
employing a consistent, simple, mechanical system to all the markets that I
trade. This "system" features momentum oscillators. And, Oh God,</FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2> it has one or two or three (dare I say) "fibonacci numbers"
imbedded in the damn formula. "I mean the shame of it all!" Fib
numbers violating the integrity of a sound momentum oscillator.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton, you must have missed my stirring
historical review of Fibonacci's trip to Egypt, his lovers, and other
antidotes. It was all related to me in a bar in Detroit (circa 1981) by
one of his descended. I forget if it was Leno, Dino, or Nino Fibonacci
(three brothers who you want on your team when the chairs start
flying). If anyone still has that post, please share it with Ton.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Meanwhile, I'll be mechanically trading for a
friends, relatives, and a couple of guys whose names end with a vowel. And
Ton, shame on you if you use 13 in any of your formulas. Didn't you send
me a Linear Regression Oscillator that was peppered with the number 13.
Honestly, Ton, you should be ashamed of your behavior!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dancing the monkey on a string,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
A.J. Maas
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>RTList</A> ; <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 12, 2000 4:25
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fib MA's and the
S&P</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sorry, Steve, could not resist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Which of the following is true:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Gann has got someting to do with the stock-exchanges,
Elliott has got something </FONT><FONT size=2>to do with </FONT><FONT
size=2>the stock-bourses,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the fib-fantasy-theory has got something to do with
</FONT><FONT size=2>the stock-market ?????</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Being related means (bloodlined/hooked/connected), doesn't
that make your indicators </FONT><FONT size=2>very ancient</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(800 years ago), eg at a time </FONT><FONT size=2>that
they might have worked and provided for the miracles </FONT><FONT
size=2>on the exchanges</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>back then ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Shit, they hadn't even started back than, eg the first
historical evidence of </FONT><FONT size=2>people trading and
betting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(taking options) </FONT><FONT size=2>on shipped
</FONT><FONT size=2>cargo loads + their </FONT><FONT size=2>arrival times
</FONT><FONT size=2>(eg the birth of the first </FONT><FONT size=2>public
outdoor held</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>exchange markets) appeared 'only' </FONT><FONT size=2>in the
</FONT><FONT size=2>very recent </FONT><FONT size=2>history, eg in the late
Golden Century</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(still some 300 years ago), and some well </FONT><FONT
size=2>over </FONT><FONT size=2>500 years later than when Fab saw his holy
Maria ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Oh well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Since modern times has revealed itself in that the
historical </FONT><FONT size=2>witch-hunts and other ku-klux-clan </FONT><FONT
size=2>alike stuff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>was </FONT><FONT size=2>due to mankind itself by
some men starting out hoaxes, eg by word of mouth, eg </FONT><FONT
size=2>one man</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> -out of anger swearing- </FONT><FONT size=2>would give
</FONT><FONT size=2>another person(woman) </FONT><FONT size=2>a nick-name, and
than suddenly </FONT><FONT size=2>all men believed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the hoax and than made out that </FONT><FONT
size=2>that </FONT><FONT size=2>person(woman) was also what that
</FONT><FONT size=2>name comprised </FONT><FONT size=2>and that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>therefore </FONT><FONT size=2>that person(woman) was also to
</FONT><FONT size=2>be put on the burning staple?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Eg, ain't it time you outgrow this childish
parroting stuff, that was thought to you by your master
parrots</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>at the CMT-course?</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>As of Jan 1st, 2000 my wage's paycheck got a 3% rise, does
that make (the rise/my employer/</FONT><FONT size=2>me) also</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>ancient + fib related, eg is (he, my employer/it, the
rise/me) therefore also a now a modern day version </FONT><FONT
size=2>of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the fib(ulous) natural miracle story ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>--------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Back to the markets:</DIV>
<DIV></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>What near future forcast can I get from these
ave's? How should I interpret them on your picture?</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>That is what was not so very clear.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>If any, I can see that there is a great bending
arch-movement </FONT><FONT size=2>bowing </FONT><FONT size=2>downwards by Mr
SPX , and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>done so within the horizontal trading ranges and is further
moving (sideways/down) in smaller up+down waves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>A</FONT><FONT size=2>nd since these ave's are not put on a
'simple + plain bar' chart also (bloom/hide) the fact
that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the </FONT><FONT size=2>7/8 fractal ma </FONT><FONT
size=2>solidly </FONT><FONT size=2>resides </FONT><FONT size=2>on a
</FONT><FONT size=2>much</FONT> <FONT size=2>lower level, eg on a
level than cannot be seen on </FONT><FONT size=2>your</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>'exponental + volume candled' </FONT><FONT size=2>chart.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Let alone shows where the also present and solid 3/2
fractal ma support (eg the SMA150) resides.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Here are the moves:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> near
Nov end - </FONT><FONT size=2>hitted </FONT><FONT size=2>the 1/8 fractal
ma (12.5)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
on Nov end - hitted the 1/4 fractal ma (25)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
mid Dec - hitted the 1/3 fractal ma (33.3)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
early Jan - hitted the 2/3 fractal ma (66.7)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
now solidly - due to hit the 7/8 fractal ma (87.5)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>
near future - eventualy out to hit the solid 3/2 fractal ma
(150)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This is the stuff you will not get thought and will not ever
learn by continue fib-parrot-ing, eg this is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>home-brewed </FONT><FONT size=2>self-a-steam-ed </FONT><FONT
size=2>financial cooking working for you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This is, like your ma's, also not ever usefull stuff to ever
build a (solid) mechanical trade-system on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Only eye-balling can help the reader determine, this
also mostly afterwards, what the correct level</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>was/has been </FONT><FONT size=2>to (do/get out of) a
trade.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Above are</FONT> <FONT size=2>projections(targets)
only, (and/but) only history will tell if they shall all come
true.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>For that I kinda like your "Momentum play" signals better.
My mechinical momentum IMT/ST system</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>for that matter </FONT><FONT size=2>generated only for today
(0112) many sell signals, of which was one.........Mr SPX.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>And the buy signal got only generated last
Oct99..............................</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Knowing too, you to be a serious trader, and that my
scepticism towards that mediocre </FONT><FONT size=2>so
called</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>'natural wonders" based </FONT><FONT size=2>fib-theory is
also known to you, know that you will not (be/get) offended by my</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>at the </FONT><FONT size=2>top made
(silly/humorous/evidential) remarks.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss
the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and<BR>note the new
address change. Also for my Homepage<BR><A
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve
Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>RTList</A> ; <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> dinsdag 11 januari 2000
2:38</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fib MA's and the S&P</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sometimes weeks fly by and I don't always get
around to looking at all my 297 indicators, templates and layouts. As
a mechanical, contrarian, oscillator trader, I'd prefer not to be influenced
by the subjectivity of interpretive approaches (Gann, Elliot, etc.).
Thinking hurts my head. I'm all "thunk" out. I spent thousands
of hours refining my love: momentum oscillators (and it took it's toll
on my brain). Having said that...I do enjoy the "dance of the fib
averages". They offer great support and resistance areas...(or is
this just another hairy coincidence?).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
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